The Rocks came from Huntsville, in northern Alabama.
Randy Duck is quoted on a Lee High School alumni site (a couple spellings of names are corrected):
The original Rocks included Johnny Harbin, Butch Rolfe, Bulldog Hillis, Joe Skipworth, Skip Atkins, Donnie Cartelli and me. Later, Johnny and Butch went into the service and Bulldog dropped out. Jackie Tiller started playing lead guitar, Richard Hahn came on board with keyboards …
We had several different drummers after Donnie, but Doug Cheffer was the last one. Donnie and Doug are both passed away.
My copy of “Terri” is signed by Butch Rolfe.
I’ve seen a later photo of the band with this lineup:
Randy Duck – lead vocalist Joe “Little Joe” Skipworth – sax Jack Tiller – lead guitar Skip Atkins – bass guitar Doug Cheffer – drums
Randy Dee Duck wrote both songs of their first single, “Love City” / “Terri”, released on Gold Master Records GM-1001 in November 1964. Both sides are great, crude rock ‘n roll.
Their second single came in 1965, “Love or Money” by Don Cortelli and Randy Duck with “Rock Pretty Baby”, on Gold Master GM-1003. I haven’t heard this one yet.
The Rocks get a slower, bluesy sound on the top side of their last single “Because We’re Young” written by Walter Sims, I’m not sure his connection to the band. The flip is a ballad, “My Only Love” by Johnny Harbin and Randy Duck, released in November 1965 on Woodrich Records WR-1249.
A single by the Rocks on White Cliffs 239, “Who Do You Love” (by Edgar Starns) / “Keep My Woman Home” may be a different group.
Sonny Limbo produced for L & C Productions. Sonny was a Huntsville DJ whose real name was Sonny Limbaugh – thus Limbaugh Music publishing, and also seems to have partly owned Gold Master Records.
Besides the two Rocks 45s, Sonny also produced the Hi-Boys Combo ”Why (Must I Love You)” / “Some Man (Other than Me)” both written by C. Bolden, released on Gold Master GM-1004.
Gold Master GM-1002 is Hollis Champion’s “Stand There” / “Sugarfoot Rag”, and doesn’t have Sonny’s name or publishing anywhere on the labels.
Sonny also produced at least two singles on the Exclusive Records label out of Chattanooga:
The Champells – “Don’t You Know” / “Won’t You Love Me” on Exclusive 2297, both written by Ralph Flynn (the second copyrighted as “Won’t You Love Me Too”? by Ralph Thomas Flynn in October 1965).
The Vondels - “Stagger Lee” / “Turn on Your Love Light” on Exclusive 2295.
The Tel Stars, from left: Jimmy Carter, Ronnie Wilson, unidentified – can anyone ID? and Terry Gorka
The Telstars were a big draw in the Washington DC area, playing at the Bayou among other venues.
The band was based in Falls Church; members included:
Jimmy Maddox – guitar Gary Johnson – guitar Jimmy Carter – guitar Terry Gorka – bass Ronnie Wilson – drums
Bud Becker sent in the photo seen here, and remembers two vocalists with the band, Jerry Burke, who went into the Army, and a second named Mick. He also remembers Terry’s wife Cherrie Gorka was a seamstress who made costumes for December’s Children, and that Barry Siedel managed the band.
The Telstars put a lot of fuzz behind “Keep on Running”, a song written and originally performed by Jackie Edwards, and made famous through the Spencer Davis Group. It’s a good version, but I like their take on “Hold Tight” even more. Sylvia Fricker of Ian & Sylvia wrote “Hold Tight”, registering copyright in September, 1966.
“Hold Tight” appeared on Ian & Sylvia’s 1967 album So Much for Dreaming, which I don’t have a release date for, but I believe it shortly precedes the Telstars single on Columbia 4-44141 in May, 1967. I’d be curious if the Telstars heard “Hold Tight” on the album or from a songwriting demo.
The production credit is interesting. Bob Wyld and Art Polhemus of Longhair Productions created many great singles with the Blues Magoos, including “Tobacco Road” and “(We Ain’t Got) Nothin’ Yet”; the Magicians (“An Invitation to Cry”, “About My Love” and more), the Blue Beats and others, usually on Columbia Records.
Barry Seidel (with Tom Traynor) produced records by the Mad Hatters and the Fallen Angels. The Telstars record is the only time Seidel worked with both Wyld and Polhemus, but Bob Wyld would later produce albums for acts that Seidel managed, Steel Image and Exuma.
Bud Becker thought the Telstars recorded at either Rodel Studios in Georgetown or Edgewood Recording Studios. Bud managed various groups, such as the Winds of Change and the Yorkshires.
Terry Gorka would go into the Reason with Tommy Dildy, Bill Manning, and Billy Windsor, releasing an album Age of Reason on Georgetowne Records.
Thank you to Linda Shekan for correcting some errors in this article with her comment below.
The Triumphs “Better Come Get Her” is a stomping rocker, with lines like “she wants to cheat, and I’ll give her the chance”! The flip is the bizarre blues novelty “Morticia Baker”; the single was released on Pacemaker Records PM-238 in early 1966.
The Triumphs came from Rosenberg, TX, just southwest of Houston. Billed as the Triumphs of Rosenberg, I can find notices of their live shows as early as March, 1961, and they started recording in 1962, with singles on various labels such as Dante and Bragg.
For “Better Come Get Her”, the Triumphs consisted of:
Don Drachenberg – usually saxophone but lead vocals Tim Griffith – guitar Tom Griffith – bass Fred Carney – organ Teddy Mensik – drums Denver “Denny” Zatyka – backing vocals Gary Koeppen – backing vocals
Mark Charron was a prolific song writer who composed both sides of this single, as well as other songs for the Triumphs, like “Candy Baby” (the flip of their Pacemaker hit “I’m So Lonesome I Could Cry”), and “Keep It Up” on Joed Records, which is now sought after by soul DJs.
The Triumphs had been backing B.J. Thomas, but I’ve read the band wouldn’t tour after “I’m So Lonesome I Could Cry” hit, so Thomas dropped the group. His solo career was already underway, “Tomorrow Never Comes” / “Your Tears Leave Me Cold” on Pacemaker PM-239, credits B.J. Thomas alone.
Huey Meaux owned Pacemaker Records. A Crazy Cajun album Gotta Keep My Kool includes some unreleased music I haven’t heard yet.
Other members of the Triumphs included Doug Griffith on keyboards, John Perry on bass, and Ron Petersen.
The Triumphs would continue, but not releasing more music until 1969 and 1970, when they made two singles on Master Record Co., based out of Jones Sound Recording Studio at 1523 Blair in Houston. Wand picked up one of these, “Houston Won’t Call Me” for national release. I haven’t heard their first Master single, with the intriguing titles “Hang My Mind Out to Dry” / “The World Is Dying”.
Source: Alec Palao’s notes to Don’t Be Bad! (60s Punk Recorded in Texas) which digs deeply into Crazy Cajun’s tape vaults.
The Beau Havens had one record, the fantastic “Elizabeth” / “Feel So Good” on Gama Records 45-705 from September, 1966. The photos seen here were taken about a year earlier, in 1965.
I’m trying to decipher the hand-writing on this card, so members’ names may not be spelled correctly. Any help would be appreciated:
John Colgan – drums, vocals on “Feel So Good” Kerry Miller – lead guitar Jim Whelan – lead vocal on “Elizabeth” Allan Hurdle (or is it Allen Hurdle?) – guitar Tom Whelan – piano
Kevin Miller – manager
The group were all young teenagers in ’65.
Belle Haven, VA has been listed as their town of origin, however that eastern shore town is nearly four hours drive from the Springfield, Virginia American Legion Hall where these photos were taken.
The Beau Havens were actually from the Belle Haven subdivision south of Alexandria, VA, in Fairfax County (tip of the hat to Chris Farrell for pointing out the correct Belle Haven).
A neighborhood newsletter, the Belle Haven Tribune, from May 7, 1965 featured the group. The newsletter spells the brothers names as Tom Whealen and Jim Whealen.
A Pi Alpha Gamma banner appears behind the group, and it’s likely the Beau Havens shared the bill with the Londoners and the Roaches.
This should be Johnny Colgan on drumsPhoto of the Beau Havens – the drummer lacks his cravat
Jim Whelan wrote and, I think, sang lead on “Elizabeth”.
Rick Fulton wrote “Feel So Good”. I’m not sure if Rick was a later member of the band or simply a friend. Johnny Colgan appears to have sang lead on this side.
Both songs likely were cut at Edgewood Recording Studio at 1627 K Street, N.W. in Washington D.C. A couple of Edgewood acetates of the single exist. On one the song has the title “She Makes Me Feel So Good”, corrected in pen to “She Makes Me Feel Right”.
Doesn’t sound like the Beau Havens had a keyboard player on the record. Claiborne Music published both songs.
I believe this is Kerry Miller of the Beau Havens
More info on the Beau Havens would be appreciated.
Update May, 2022:
Danny G purchased a guitar in the D.C. area and the name on the case helped him trace it to this post, where it is clearly the guitar in the last photo above. Below are some interesting photos of this custom-made guitar provided by Danny along with his description:
Kerry Miller’s custom-made guitar
Likely a neck taken from an unbranded Kay guitar and put onto a solid chunk of mahogany (?). The white paint was to emulate the pickguard on a Höfner bass.
The guitar uses two Lafayette pickups, a 99-4536 in the neck which is a screw on pickup made for jazz arch top guitars and a PA-297 acoustic soundhole pickup in the bridge. The guitar has a really unique sound because of the odd choice of pickups, and that’s part of the reason I bought it.
The bridge pickup came with an RCA input and he simply repurposed it as the main input.
Kerry’s guitar – one hook to keep the pickup selector in place, and an eye for the guitar strapGretsch Tone-Twister palm vibratoLafayette pickups
The Trophies released one single in October, 1965, “With a Love” backed with the uptempo “C’mon Little Lady”.
If the members were also the song writers, then the band included:
George Jevicky Andy Martin Daniel Nasimento
Geo. Jevicky, Andy Martin wrote the moody “With a Love” published by Blue Coast Music, administered by SESAC. Daniel Mascimento wrote “C’mon Little Lady” published by Duval BMI.
This is the only release on the Golden Sound label that I know of, GS 1011.
Teen Beat Mayhem lists the band’s location as San Francisco, California, but the label credits read “produced by Suwanee Songs, Lenoir City, Tennessee”.
I’d like to know how a San Francisco band wound up on a label out of Lenoir City, a small metropolis southwest of Knoxville.
Little Richard Morton cut this one single on his own Morton Records in June of 1964, backed by “His Musical Four”. Richard Morton wrote both songs, the rocker “Sad, Sad Song” and the slow “A Love I Once Enjoyed Is Now a Dream”.
The crude recording quality, prominent organ and r&b backing help push “Sad, Sad Song” into what could be called ‘garage’. His intonation is very country, so it’s no surprise the same month he made this single, he played a western dance at Womack Hall in Clifton, TX as Little Richard Morton and His Rainbow Valley Tophands.
The dead wax etchings “Manco-Morton #1 6-10-64” show this was recorded and released through Manco Recording, a Fort Worth company that released over forty singles, including “She’s A Doll” / “Kiwi Boogie” by Jim Jones & the Chaunteys.
The address of N. Pendell Ave, Cleburne was probably Morton’s home address at the time. Cleburne, TX is 30 miles south of Fort Worth.
According to copyright records, his full name was Richard Lowell Morton. Bluebonnet Pub Co. published both songs.
Richard Morton has other copyright registrations for religious songs.
The Hustlers included Chauncey Romero, Doug Grantz, and John Tavaglione Tavaliogne, plus two members I do not have first names for, Roach and Bedwell.
The Hustlers first cut “Hangin’ Five” and “Barefoot Adventure” on the House of Note Records label, as early as December, 1962. I haven’t heard either song yet. They were cut at Paul Buff’s PAL studio, and an alternate version of “Hangin’ Five” exists on tape.
Sometime in 1964 they made their next single, changing to the Original Hustlers, probably to differentiate the group from the Hustlers with Grant Baker who recorded two excellent R&B/exotica instrumental singles on Downey, “Inertia” / “Eight Ball” and “Kopout” / “Migraine”.
“Cueball” was written by L. Fields, with publishing by David Marshall Co., I’m not sure what the original source was for this song, but it’s a fine surf instrumental.
“Barefoot” is an original by the Hustlers, released on LaBelle L-64121.
LaBelle mainly released records by the folk group the Countrymen, but it also issued the Swords “Raunchy” / “Fibreglass”, which I haven’t heard yet (and could use label scans of).
Chauncey Romero first managed, then owned the House of Note music store in Redlands. The Redlands Daily Facts from July 18, 1966 wrote:
The House of Note music store at 20 N. Sixth street is now operating under the new ownership ot Chauncey Romero, former manager. Romero, a native and lifelong resident of Redlands, managed the House of Note here for four years. For the past six months, he has served as manager of the House of Note music store in Riverside. He purchased the Redlands facility, which had been a branch of the Riverside store, from owner Ted Peckles of Riverside.
The House of Note in Redlands is a franchised dealer for such well known musical instruments and accessories as Fender guitars and amplifiers, Grctsch drums and guitars, Gibson guitars and amplifiers and Martin Guitars …
Romero noted that members of several local musical groups, including the Hustlers, Templars, Tornadoes and Never So Few, received musical training at the House of Note. He said there currently are more than 100 students enrolled. The teaching staff is composed of Norman Sanders, Greg Tomquist, John W. Sessums III, C. P. Woods, Warren Wheeler, Dean Pickard and Casey Cunningham.
The House of Note closed in 1968.
The Tornadoes included Norman (Roly) Sanders, Gerald Sanders, Leonard Delaney, Jesse Sanders, and George White, and would cut “Bustin’ Surfboards” among other singles on Aertaun and an album on Josie.
The Templars included Garry Brier, Glen Hellman, Dave Gruver, Ron Norcross and Mike McGrath, but I do not believe they recorded (they’re not the Templars who cut Chafungie” / “Get Out of My Life” on Paragon).
The Countrymen recorded on Audio Adventures out of Piqua, Ohio, 20 miles north of Dayton in 1971. They were really a country act, but “Flare-Up!!” is a crude and bizarre song, and does sound like it was recorded in a garage.
On “Flare-Up!!”, Ron Lininger sang lead and played guitar, Harry Burd played bass and Bud Allen contributed the tambourine. Lyrics were by W.R. Lake, music by Harry Burd.
Are you ready girls?
Now there’s times I’m sorry, You can bet your bippy, That I ever decided to marry a long-haired hippie.
Well I like to eat, And hold down a job, You’d rather eat and drink and live like a slob.
I think we’re about to have a flare-up, Let’s not have another flare-up.
If you dress like a girl, Maybe put up your hair, I’m sure that we could avoid another flare-up.
If you’d only wake up, And do a little clean-up We might avoid another flare-up.
When I need a little loving, Tender loving care, All I ever see is your long, black, and greasy hair.
I think we’re about to have a flare-up, Let’s not have another flare-up.
The lyrics are basically sung twice, separated by a break where the drummer & tambourine keep the beat while Ron slides the pick down the strings.
For the country ballad “That’s Why I’m Dreaming of You”, Bud Allen sang lead, Harry Burd played steel guitar (and wrote the song), and Ron Lininger played bass.
Fred Snyder played drums on both sides.
This is a Rite Records custom pressing, 27699/27770 from Rite account number 5216.
early photo of Homer, clockwise from top: Chet Himes, Pat Cosgrove, Galen Niles, Gary Crapster and Frank Coy
Homer was a group from San Antonio that would last from June of 1968 until about 1973. In Houston they would record three singles and an LP for URA Production (Universal Recording Artists).
The first press on the group that I can find comes from August 8, 1968 the Crystal City Sentinel ran a profile of the group by Margaret Anderson in her column, The Teen Scene:
… “Homer” has a really unique sound and the guys said that they plan to bring blues into Texas and prove that rock and roll isn’t “rinky-dinky”, but is something we can musically appreciate. The group seems to be striving for individuality among the many groups of today, rather than being just another band. All of the members of the group have been together for only two months and are all from different original groups.
The leader of the group is Galen Niles. He toured with the “Outcasts” … all through the East Coast, sings lead, and teaches music. The drummer is Pat Cosgroove [sic – actually it was Gary Crapster, Pat played guitar I believe], who won 1st place in International Drum Solo Contests. He has played in many major citys of the United States…
Other members are Frank Coy, Chet Hines, and Gary Crapster, who is also a music teacher. Kids in Crystal City look forward to having them back again for a dance in the near future.
At this early point in 1968, members were:
Frank Coy – vocals Galen Niles – lead guitar Pat Cosgrove – guitar Chet Himes – bass Gary Crapster – drums
Galen Niles has a stellar history in San Antonio music. He played on both the Pandas “Walk” / “Girl from New York City” on Swingtime and the Outcasts “1523 Blair” / “Smokestack Lightning” before joining Homer. He also played the solo on the Mind’s Eye “Help I’m Lost” (Steve Perrone – Luis Cabaza) on Jox (but not on the flip, which was taken from a single under their earlier incarnation as the Argyles).
Ron Houston wrote in the San Antonio Express and News on February 9, 1969:
… I sat ringside at the Web in Corpus Christi diggin’ the band playing a song called “Hi Ho Silver Lining.” It wasn’t Jeff Beck I was looking at. It was “Homer,” the band I had booked for Ray Schaff at the Web.
Frank Coy wrote the A-side of their first single, “Dandilion Wine”, (note spelling – not “Dandelion”) backed with a radical reworking of “I Never Cared for You”, which I would never have guessed was a Willie Nelson song if I hadn’t seen the credit on the label. It even uses “Hall of the Mountain King” in the break.
Their next single had two originals by Galen Niles, “On the Wall” / “Texas Lights”, published by Illiad Music.
Their third single had another Galen Niles composition, “Sunrise”, with a repeat of “Dandilion Wine” on the flip.
Homer at Sun Valley Ballroom on Friday, July 25, 1969 with Ron Houston, KTSA DJ, from the Victoria Advocate.
In September, 1969, Homer were one of the bands represented for booking by Fun People, Inc. at 4807 West Ave in San Antonio, along with the Laughing Kind, the Bubble Puppy, the Playboys of Edinburg, the Sweet Smoke, and Lavender Hill Express.
By the time of their album’s release in 1972, with eight originals by the band, the lineup was:
Phil Bepko – vocals Frank Coy – vocals Galen Niles – lead guitar Howard Gloor – lead guitar and steel guitar Chet Himes – bass Gene Coleman – drums
Frank Coy, Galen Niles and Chet Himes seemed to be in all incarnations of the group. I’ve also seen Rob Randolph and Van Wilks named as members. Robin Overall was a member for a few weeks, but wound up forming Heironymous with Gene Coleman and Phil Bepko, ending Homer’s run.
Chet Himes went into audio engineering, he passed away in August 2020.
Some info from mikesbandarchive.com (now defunct).
The Outcasts, November 1965. “Left to right with the jointly-owned speaker are Buddy Carson, Denny Turner, Jim Carsten, Jim Ryan and Ricky Wright.” Buddy Carson and Ricky Wright pressured to cut hair, October, 1966
The Outcasts were one of the top bands in San Antonio, and Texas in general. They cut several fine singles, including two absolute classics, “I’m in Pittsburgh (and It’s Raining)” and “1523 Blair”.
Two members of the band have sites about the group, which I’ve included below. I have found some interesting news clippings to add to their story.
The Outcasts were children of Air Force servicemen. By late 1964 they had become a quintet with:
Jim Carsten – guitar, vocals Buddy Carson – keyboards, harmonica, vocals Denny Turner – lead guitar Jim Ryan – bass Ricky Wright – drums
In June of 1965 they made their first record, “Nothing Ever Comes Easy” / “Oriental Express” recorded at Texas Sound in San Antonio, produced and written by Mike Post, released as Outcast 6865.
The Outcasts with Baby Cakes and the Greenmen, Austin Daily Texan, July 9, 1965
The San Antonio Express-News ran a feature on a number of local bands on November 21, 1965, including the Outcasts, the Rhythm Kings, the Fugitives, the Mildly Wilds, and the Loose Ends, along with the photo of the Outcasts seen at the top of this article.
Outcasts look “in” when they play.
They wear silver and black jackets, black trousers and white shirts except for “Surfer” parties when they don sport shirts.
The Outcasts, including Denny Turner, Jim Carsten, Buddy Carson, Ricky Wright and Jim Ryan, have a manager and play only popular music, old favorites and “some folk music and jazz.”
Denny, the only Outcasts who has had music training, studied the guitar because his parents couldn’t get a piano up the second-story apartment in which they lived.
The Outcasts may have one of the most elaborate public address systems owned by any teen-age band anywhere.
The lads have $700 worth of sound equipment, including two 5-foot speaker columns which contain six speakers each; three microphones and one large amplifier.
The speaker columns were built by Major Eugene Carson, the band’s manager, Buddy Carson and Jim Ryan. All the Outcasts chip in for equipment, although some of the money comes from royalties from a record the lads made sometime back …
Their five-foot speaker column, which cost $140, allows the singer’s voice to be clearly heard over the music.
Maj. John Carson was Buddy’s father and early manager of the group. San Antonio Express and News, April 2, 1966
In 1966 they had three singles on Askel. Jim Carsten was their main song-writer. Jim wrote both sides of their first Askel single, “I’m in Pittsburgh (and it’s Raining)” and “The Price of Victory”. It was their best-selling record, reportedly getting airplay on various stations around the country.
Jim Carsten wrote the top side of their next single, “Everyday”, while Carsten and Denny Turner wrote “I’ll Set You Free”, both fine original songs. Askel reissued “Everyday” with a great version of “Route 66”. One 45 label I’ve seen has “Buddy is singing” written on the “Route 66” side.
All of their Askel 45s had Ron Newdoll producing, at Accurate Sound Inc in San Angelo, publishing by Sangelo Music BMI.
During two summers when Jim Ryan returned to Oslo, Norway, where his father was stationed, he had two fill-ins, John (surname?) in 1965, and Kurt Linhoff in 1966.
Outcasts at The Casket in Kerrville, Sept. 14, 1967, from the Daily Times
Denny Turner left the band in late 1966, and the Outcasts found Galen Niles of the Pandas, to replace him. Jim Ryan wrote “[Galen] switched to a vintage Les Paul in late ’66 and recorded with us on our last single.”
“1523 Blair” / “Smokestack Lightning” came out in January 1967 on Gallant GT-101. Jim Ryan and Buddy Carson wrote “1523 Blair”, produced by H & H Productions at 243 Southill St in San Antonio. For certain, the song has incredible energy, with the vocalist (Buddy?) practically spitting out the lyrics.
1523 Blair was the address for Doyle Jones’ studio in Houston, where the band did some other recordings that were not released at the time.
Outcasts “a smashing success at California’s Hi-Ho Clubs” (did the group actually play in California?) and the Chaynes at the Olmos Club, San Antonio Express Nov. 5, 1966Outcasts now called the Proof, at New Orleans, October 20, 1967, from the Daily TexanOutcasts now called the Proof, at The Casket in Kerrville, November 3, 1967, from the Daily Times
In October 1967 at the New Orleans club in Austin, and then in November at The Casket in Kerrville, ads bill the group as “The Proof” (formerly the Outcasts).
One member wrote: “sadly, the group dissolved in a psychedelic haze in 1968”.
Jim Ryan would play with the Swiss Movement, then move to Los Angeles in 1969 for a couple of years.
The Outcasts story is told in some detail on various members sites, that are remarkably still active as of 2021. The photos unfortunately are mostly very small in size.
Denny Turner’s site has several pages on the Outcasts, try this one and this one.
Jim Ryan’s band page also has info on the Outcasts.
Mike Lowell’s site mikesbandarchive.com has been out of commission for about eight years now but is still partially available on the Internet Archive.
If anyone has better quality photos of the Outcasts, or more info on the members & group, please contact me.
Galen Niles Pandas San Antonio Light, Oct 16, 1966
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The Rocks came from Huntsville, in northern Alabama.
Randy Dee Duck wrote both songs of their first single, “Love City” / “Terri”, released on Gold Master Records GM-1001 in November 1964. Both sides are great, crude rock ‘n roll.
