Interview with Jim Klieforth of the Traits

The Traits, 1967, from left: Bob Creaturo, Bobby Williams (on drums), Mike Carroll, Phil Daddona, Jim Klieforth (on keyboard, obscured) and Artie Williams. Photo from Mike Carroll, courtesy of his family.

I corresponded with Jim Klieforth of the Traits in 2009, about a year after writing about them in some detail in regard to the Ren-Vell Records Battle of the Bands LP. Below is our conversation from that time.

Jime Klieforth: My late brother [Charles Klieforth] was a bit of a wheeler-dealer who wasn’t musical but wanted to be in the rock business in some capacity, nurturing a fantasy of being an impresario. I’d been playing guitar and keyboards for a couple of years and our family home had an empty basement that was suitable for a group to rehearse in, so he sweet-talked me and the best musician-singers he knew into forming a group with him as manager. I’d never met any of these guys but was very impressed with the line-up’s talent and professionalism.

Back then, a group needed to have a couple of hours of material well rehearsed for public performances and we had enough musical common ground to pull that together within two weeks. My brother Chuck and his assistant, Don Reid, started aggressively pursuing work for the band and getting us publicity. Almost overnight, we were playing every local venue and from then on out, our rehearsals were jammed with our local contemporaries (mostly schoolgirls) eager to monitor our development. It was an odd and unexpected social change for all of us.

I wish I could say that we were friendly with other bands at that time but the truth is that we saw all of them as competition that needed to be vanquished. The Orphans, for example, who didn’t shine on the Renvell record, turned into a force to be reckoned with when Bobby Mayo (later of Peter Frampton fame) joined up.

We’d had a real advantage by starting out with a good rhythm section and an extraordinary guitarist (Dom Chicerchia, who left the band just before the Ted Mack show we did) but our competitors began acquiring skills at a pace that caused us to get very serious about playing well and refining all aspects of our performance. In an unfortunate reversal of what usually happens, the only recordings of the band were from very early on, before we really developed musically.

I was born in White Plains. Jimmy Carpenito of the Mystics told me Renvell’s studio was next to Gun Town on Central Ave, a store I vaguely remember from my childhood. Hard to believe there was a recording studio on Central Ave! I’m in Brooklyn, now, but my family’s still in White Plains and Yonkers.

As I recall it, Renvell was a second floor walkup, a big room that struck me, even then, as being quite low budget, a shoestring operation with cheap and/or antique equipment. Given how few records carry the Renvell label, I have to assume that most of their business was geared to commercial jingles for local businesses and radio play. I ran into the guy who ran it (I believe his name was Joe Renda) years later, when he owned Northlake Studios in White Plains.

I reminded him of the album and told him I’d been on it and he replied with a story that I thought at the time was an overblown fabrication. According to him, a couple of big DJ’s in England had fallen in love with the Battle of The Bands album and by repeatedly featuring it, had cultivated the development of the garage band sound there, setting the stage for punk. As he told it, the album was selling for $200.00 a pop there (in 1980 dollars) and “High On a Cloud” had received extensive airplay. It turned out that he’d been telling the truth, and the song became known well enough to end up being covered by the Pandoras. Since then it has been put on more compilations than I’ve been able to keep track of. In what is a common story about recordings of that era, no request for usage in these compilations has ever been requested from the band and no compensation has ever been forthcoming. Some of my former band mates are unhappy about this, but personally, I’m delighted that the recording has been archived and perpetuated as a minor archetype of the true garage band sound.

Traits to appear on Ted Mack’s Amateur Hour on Sunday, September 17, 1967

Q. When Dom left the band, who replaced him for the Ted Mack show, playing guitar behind his neck on the film?

That was Phil Daddona, who had to attempt to learn Dom’s “behind the neck” trick very quickly.  As you can see from the film, he wasn’t particularly adept at it, whereas Dom had been the pre-Hendrix master of it.

Jim Klieforth (2009)

The Traits on “High on a Cloud”:

Mike Carroll – lead vocals
Dom Chicherchia – lead guitar
Jim Klieforth – keyboard
Bob “Creature” Creaturo – guitar
Bobby Williams – drums
Unidentified bass player

The Traits on Ted Mack (July 31, 1967, aired Sept. 17, 1967):

Mike Carroll – lead vocals
Phil Daddona – lead guitar
Jim Klieforth – keyboard
Bob “Creature” Creaturo – guitar
Bobby Williams – drums
Artie Williams – bass

The band seems to have slowly split up, as Mike Carroll was drafted in ’68, but must have come back at some point to be the lead vocalist on the Nobody Loves the Hulk release, from 1969.

Bobby Williams reportedly died some years ago, details are unknown. Three other Traits members have passed: Bob Creaturo on September 12, 2014, Mike Carroll on March 15, 2018, and Dom Chicherchia on August 24, 2021.

The Traits at the entrance to the Pelham Parkway IRT station (the 5 train)

More info can be found in the accompanying booklet to the Mojo-Bone release and Ugly Things #66.

The Psychedelic Sound “Sorry Baby – Goodbye” / “Stars Cease to Shine” on Sunny-Side

The Psychedelic Sound, January 1968, front left: Linda Lizzi and Tina Bauer, back from left: Jim Schelley, Ronnie Amato and Tom Berger. Not pictured: bassist Kevin Kerr.

The Psychedelic Sound were one of the bands who recorded at Earl Kennett’s studio in Kinderhook, New York.

Psychedelic Sound Kennett Sound Studio Acetate 45 Sorry Baby Goodbye
Lacquer with both songs of the Psychedelic Sound 45
The band released two original songs, “Sorry Baby – Goodbye” / “Stars Cease to Shine” on Sunny-Side Records 0014, Sunnyside being the name of the Kennett family’s horse farm where the studio was located.

Members included:

Linda Rizzi – vocals
Tina Bauer – drums
Jim Schelley – guitar
Ronnie Amato – vocals and keyboards(?)
Tom Berger – guitar
Kevin Kerr – bass

Psychedelic Sound Daily Freeman 1968 Feb 22
plans include making another record
The Kingston Daily Freeman reported on January 22, 1968 that: “the Psychedelic Sound would take part in the annual March of Dimes benefit show Jan. 28 at municipal auditorium. They recently cut two successful platters, Sorry Baby – Goodbye and Stars Cease to Shine.”

A Daily Freeman notice from July, 1968 remarks:

The Psychedelic Sound, a five-piece musical group consisting of teenagers from Kingston and Lake Katrine, won the Battle of the Bands, sponsored by the Saugerties JayCees, which was held July 3 at Cantine Field.

The group has played for many benefits including the American Legion, Band Battles and Cerebral Palsy, and are under the direction of Mary Rizzi, Lake Katrine.

Mary Rizzi, presumably Linda’s mother, is also credited as producer of the 45, as M. Lizzi. The band probably broke up as Linda Rizzi and presumably others were attending college in the fall.

After the Psychedelic Sound, Kevin Kerr is mentioned as the bassist for the Contemporary Souls, in a photo that ran in the Daily Freeman showing guitarists Jim Kluepfel and Guy Walker with drummer Ted Blankschan for a YMCA/YWCA/Kingston Recreation dance on Dedrick Street in August, 1968.

Ronnie Amato played organ at the Cedar Grove Inn in Saugerties and Liguori’s Restaurant in Rosendale.

Tina Bauer had previously been in another local group called 3 Hits and a Miss with a photo that ran in the Daily Freeman in September, 1966 for a dance at Ulster Park Grange Hall.

3 Hits And A Miss, from left: Sal Greco, lead guitar; Tony Greco, vocalist, Tina Bauer, drummer and Al Pace, rhythm guitar

Thank you to Achille Brunet for tracking down the news clips seen here. Achille has his own site, Strange Lights to cover other bands of this period.

There used to be a dozen such blogs and sites going to cover ’60s ‘garage’ music, but the number of active ones has dwindled in recent years. I hope more start up, because there are too many bands from this era whose history is still undocumented.

The Wild Kingdom, Hampton and Newport News, Virginia

The Wild Kingdom: John Etheridge (drums), Glen (Robbie) Robertson (bass), Bruce West (vocals), and Mike Johnstone (guitar)

Many is the time I’ve had a lead on a band that is obscure to me, which then gets forgotten in the avalanche of emails and comments I received from this site over time. I apologize for not following up in a timely manner.

Steven S. wrote to me a long time ago, 2008, about the Wild Kingdom, and though I corresponded with him, I neglected to post about the band, probably because they didn’t have any records to their name. Only recently have I noticed the connections to other bands such as the Mustangs and the Back Door, so I’ll add the photo and info he sent to me so long ago.

The Wild Kingdom were from the Peninsula (Hampton, Newport News) and used to play on the Southside at all the usual teen clubs.

The Swinging Machine and the Wild Wild Kingdom, at Hullabaloo, Newport News Daily Press, June 1968
The band personnel were: John Etheridge (drums), Glen (Robbie) Robertson (bass), Bruce West (vocals), and Mike Johnstone (guitar). Johnstone was an extremely gifted player who enjoyed considerable acclaim among area musicians.  Etheridge and Robertson wove a tightly solid sound, more like an R&B rhythm section than one might have expected from a hippie band in those days.  West was a versatile singer and quite the showman. 

At one point, they hooked up with Keith (of “98.6” fame) and toured as his backup band for awhile.  They later morphed into “The Back Door” and continued playing at local clubs until they scattered to join various other local groups.  They were the great unknowns in those days, being somewhat eclipsed by Swingin’ Machine. However, they were outstanding players and didn’t pay lip service at all to the “blue-eyed soul” genre that ruled the area back then. Their manager, Jim Tatum, also handled Bill Deal & the Rhondells – go figure!

Wild Kingdom and Back Door were a huge influence on many of us Southside garage punks.  We ranked them above Swingin’ Machine, partly because they didn’t cover any radio hits, but mostly because they were the better band.

I don’t remember Wild Kingdom/Back Door surviving beyond 1969. At that time, Bruce West injured his leg in a motorcycle mishap and “retired” from the music scene. Robbie Robertson likewise dropped off the radar about then.  Mike Johnstone & John Etheridge continued performing with various other area groups until at least the mid 1970’s. Some of the bands I recall were “Headstone Circus”, “Rooth”, “The Dubonettes”, and “Hot Cakes”.

To my knowledge, there are no recordings of the Wild Kingdom.

Jerry Harden published a brief memoir about Barnie’s in Buckroe Beach, VA that mentioned some of the bands I’ve covered, including Adrian & the Sinsations and Danny and the Delnotes. About the Wild Kingdom, he lists an additional member, Ray Witham, and writes that Robby Robinson [sic]: “was arrested on stage for wearing a sword as part of his costume”!

The Rogues and the Back Door, Hampton VA bands pre-Headstone Circus

Steve Monaco and Bob Schlagel of the Back Door, 1967

Tina Monaco sent in these photos of the Rogues and the Back Door, two Hampton Virginia bands that didn’t make records but would have at least two members who would go on to Headstone Circus: Mike Johnstone on guitar and Bob Schlagal on bass.

The Rogues 1965-66, Hampton VA, from left: Tommy Clark, Bob Schlagal, Jimmy ?, Jerry ?, and Steve Monaco.

The Rogues ran during 1965 and 1966, and included:

Jerry ? – lead vocals
Tommy Clark – lead guitar
Jimmy ? – rhythm guitar
Bob Schlagal – bass
Steve Monaco – drums

The Back Door existed circa 1967 and included:

Bruce West
Mike Johnstone – guitar
Robbie Robertson
Bob Schlagal – bass
Steve Monaco – drums

Bruce West, Mike Johnstone and Robbie Robertson were also in the Wild Kingdom in 1968.

Tina wrote to me in 2025:

I am Tina Monaco, sister of Steve Monaco. He was a drummer for an incarnation of several bands from the 60s. The bands would practice in our garage at our residence on Big Bethel Road.

We were kids of a career Air Force father and our family retired in 1968 in Miami, Florida. Steve went on from there to marry his Lakenheath American High School sweetheart from our earlier days 1963-1965 in England. He became a commercial airline pilot for major airlines. He and Nancy are retired living in Arizona. I am retired as well, living in Lake Worth Beach Fl.

The Back Door, 1967 from left: Bruce West, Bob Schlagal (at top), Mike Johnstone, unidentified in white shirt, and Robbie Robertson at far right. Steve Monaco drummer not pictured.

The Powers of Darkness from Union City, CA

The Powers of Darkness from left: unidentified, Dave Moreno, Anthony Anchundo, Dave Perry and unidentified. Photo taken at Southland Mall in Hayward
Eric Burdon of the Animals with Dave Moreno of Powers of Darkness

The Powers of Darkness came from Union City, CA though in at least one contemporary news notice they’re listed as from Hayward.

Members included:

Dave Moreno – bass and vocals
Dave Perry – drums
Tony Anchundo – rhythm guitar and vocals

It’s possible Sal Saccardo from the Just VI replaced Dave Perry on drums at some point. Candelario ‘Candy’ Moreno managed the group.

The Powers of Darkness played shows in Newark, Fremont and Hayward at the roller rink on Mission Blvd, and a senior prom at Gonzales Union High School in the Salinas Valley.

Their most well-publicized show was the Spotlight ’66 concert on November 25, 1966 at Logan High School in Union City with Mel Carter, the Just VI and the New Chessmen, M.C.’d by Johnny Holliday of KYA.

The group took part in a televised event in Modesto, but that seems to be lost. Unfortunately, the band did not make it into a recording studio.

Dave Moreno’s son Aaron recalls his father meeting Eric Burdon and the Animals when they were touring in the Bay Area and Eric accepting an invitation for dinner at my grandparents home in Union City.

Bob & Earl’s May-June 1969 British tour

Advert in Record Retailer May 1969

Most famous for writing and recording the original version of “Harlem Shuffle”, Los Angeles soul duo Bob & Earl toured Britain in the spring of 1969.

Guitarist Ged Peck, who previously played with Freddie Mack & The Mack Sound among many others, says his group Storm backed the duo on this British tour, although they are not listed on the dates below.

Formed around November 1968, Storm comprised Ged Peck (lead guitar); Tony Dangerfield (bass); Peter Jennings (keyboards); and Pete Phillips (drums).

Photo: Ged Peck. Left to right: Pete Phillips, Ged Peck, Tony Dangerfield and Peter Jennings

This is not a complete gig list

Bob and Earl tour dates Record Retailer, 21 May 1969, page 11

Tour dates:

3 May 1969 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with First Back from Heaven (http://www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

3 May 1969 – Winsford Civic Hall, Winsford, Cheshire with Almost Young (Runcorn Guardian/Winsford Chronicle)

17 May 1969 – Civic Hall, Nantwich, Cheshire (Winsford Chronicle)

18 May 1969 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

23 May 1969 – Clouds, Derby (Derby Evening Telegraph)

24 May 1969 – Swan, Yardley, West Midlands (Birmingham Evening Mail)

24 May 1969 – Twisted Wheel, Manchester (Manchester Evening News & Chronicle)

25 May 1969 – Casino Club, Bolton (Manchester Evening News & Chronicle)

25 May 1969 – Sherwood Rooms, Nottingham with Inez & Charlie Foxx (Derby Evening Telegraph) Starts at midnight

26 May 1969 – Club Cedar, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

26 May 1969 – Oakengates New Town Hall, Oakengates, Shropshire with Swing Ensemble (North Shropshire Journal)

27 May 1969 – Top Rank Ballroom, Croydon, south London (Record Retailer)

29 May 1969 – Crystal Ballroom, Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

29 May 1969 – Rainbow Suite, Co-op, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

 

1 June 1969 – Tower Ballroom, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk plus good supporting group (Norwich Evening News)

Photo: Ged Peck. Storm with Earl

5 June 1969 – Rainbow Suite, Co-op, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

7 June 1969 – New Century Hall, Manchester (Manchester Evening News & Chronicle)

8 June 1969 – Le Metro, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

11 June 1969 – Top Rank Suite, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

After the band broke up, Jennings subsequently joined Cressida while Peck played with Marsha Hunt and Warhorse among others.

The Rebellers “The New Generation” on Orbit Records

The Rebellers in the 1968 Milby High Valentines Varieties show, from that year’s yearbook. From left (please correct if these IDs are wrong): John Manlove, David Rodriguez, James Manlove and Jeff Gray

The Rebellers came from the Houston, Texas metro area, recording James Manlove’s original song “The New Generation” for Orbit Records 1114 in the summer of 1967.

Members included:

James Manlove – lead vocals, rhythm guitar
John Manlove – keyboards and vocals
Jeff Gray – bass guitar and vocals
David Rodriguez – drums

The flip, “The Common People” was written as “Love of the Common People” by the prolific songwriting team, John Hurley and Ronnie Wilkins.

Early versions of the Cicadelic compilation Three O’Clock Merrian Webster Time included “The New Generation” mistakenly attributed to the Nomads but with the correct writing credit. This has led some website to include James Manlove as a member of the Nomads, which I believe is incorrect.

The Rebellers featured in the Houston Post nowsounds calendar, November 19, 1967

The November 19, 1967 Houston Post nowsounds calendar ran a photo of the Rebellers.

From a photo in the 1968 Milby High School Yearbook, the Rebellers played Milby High School’s Valentines Varieties show that year.

According to his Discogs profile, David Rodriguez was a member of the group, but a commentator on youtube listed the drummer as “Pete”.

Gig list compiled from the Houston Post nowsounds calendar and other news items:

September 20, 1966: there’s a notice of the Rebellers at a benefit with Jack Jones, Garry Mann, the Bachelors and Tommy Graham at the Gulfgate Cellar Club, but that may be a little early for this band, whose frequent gig listings start in May, 1967.

Friday, May 19, 1967: at Insight Au Go Go, 12826 Beaumont Highway 90
Friday, May 26 and Saturday May 27, 1967: at Lions Club Hall, Friendswood, Highway 518
Saturday, June 3, 1967: at Grand Prix, Bay City
Tuesday, June 13, 1967: at Conroe Ballroom, Gladstell West off 45
Friday, June 16, 1967: at the Dungeon in Spring
Saturday, June 17, 1967: at Sea Isle Teen Dance in Galveston
Tuesday, June 20, 1967: at Love Street Light Circus
Wednesday, June 21, 1967: at Hullabaloo
Tuesday, June 27, 1967: at Conroe Ball Room
Saturday, July 1, 1967: at Insight Au Go Go
Saturday, July 15, 1967: at Sea Isle Teen Club, Galveston
Saturday, July 22, 1967: at Buddy McGregor Saturday Show, Foley’s Town Hall
Wednesday, July 26, 1967: at Fun Corral, 9801 Airline
Saturday, July 29, 1967: with the Entire Thing at Sea Isle, Galveston
Friday, August 18, 1967: at the Vault, Pasadena
Saturday, August 19, 1967: at Deer Park Civic Center
Wednesday, August 23, 1967: at Carousel Skating Rink, 9190 Old Katy Road
Thursday, August 24, 1967: at KNUZ back-to-school festival at Sharpstown Center
Friday, August 25, 1967: at Teen Hall, Bryan TX
Saturday, August 26, 1967: at Ken Grant Show, Sharpstown Shopping Center 2 PM, and Insight Au Go Go, Beaumont Highway
Friday, October 6, 1967: at Teen Hall, Bryan
Friday, October 20, 1967: at Lodge Pokrok, 15th and Beall
Saturday, November 4, 1967: at Lions Club, Pearland
Saturday, November 11, 1967: at Kerwin High School, Galveston
Friday, November 17, 1967: with Lemon Fog, Soul Searchers, Duke & the Kingsmen, and the Inquisitions at San Jacinto High School Soul Spectacular
Saturday, November 18, 1967: with Audio Manifesto at Mount Carmel High
Wednesday, November 22, 1967: at Brenham Hanger Club
Friday, December 15, 1967: at the Vault, Pasadena
Saturday, December 2, 1967: at Taylor Hall, Pasadena
Saturday, December 23, 1967: at Nottingham Forest Country Club
Friday, January 12, 1968: at Lodge Pokrok
Saturday, January 27, 1968: at Milby High School
Saturday, February 10, 1968: at Love Street Light Circus
February ?, 1968: Milby High School’s Valentines Varieties show
Friday, March 22, 1968: at the Vault, Pasadena
Friday, April 19, 1968: at Teen Hall, Dickinson
Saturday, May 4, 1968: with Ninth Street Bridge, Lemon Fog, Apollos at Taylor Hall, Pasadena
Saturday, June 8, 1968: Jamaica Beach, Galveston
Friday, June 21, 1968: at Lodge Pokrok
Saturday, June 29, 1968: at Sea Isle, Galveston
Saturday, July 20, 1968: at DERA Hall, Orange
Friday, August 2, 1968: at the New Vault, Pasadena

The Misfits “No One Else” / “Route 66” on Repent

This group of Misfits came out of Dallas and North Texas State University in nearby Denton. They cut a fine original folk-rock song, “No One Else” backed with a good version of “Route 66” on Repent 520 in August, 1966.

This was not the same Misfits who became the Lost and Found. The Misfits who became Lost & Found were from Houston, and, according to an old interview with Jim Frost, never played in Dallas, and never recorded as the Misfits.

This news clipping shows all the members’ names are different than any in the Lost & Found.

The Dallas News ran a photo of Joe Daughtery, the writer of “No One Else” performing with the Misfits and a short article on the group:

If you drive around the shore of White Rock Lake on almost any Sunday afternoon, you’ll come to a brown-rock picnic building where a controlled riot seems to be getting out of control.

But ask any of the mob of teen-agers standing and jumping around and you’ll be assured it’s really just a Sunday concert in the park.

The picnic building has grown in the last few years into a kind of proving ground for the detonations of ambitious and un-shy teen-age combos.

Sunday a sign in front of the band said: “The Misfits. Open for engagements. Call FL2-4046.”

But when the Misfits began blasting something called “Dirty Water,” the sign disappeared in a flood of weaving and bobbing couples.

“We get a lot of engagements this way,” said Joe Daugherty, the 21-year-old guitarists and singer who runs the Misfits. “A fellow from a fraternity just asked us to play a party.”

Daugherty and two other Misfits – drummer Rick Price, 22, and bass guitarist Mark McLane, 20 – are North Texas State University business students. Lead guitarist Jim Adkins, 23, works in a Dallas bank.

“We cut a record of a couple of my songs but nothing much happened,” said Daugherty.

Hundreds of kids sometimes mob the picnic building. Nobody seems to be in charge or worried about the noisy blowout. Policemen stop and watch a bit then move on …

Like any musician, Daugherty observed, “The acoustics are pretty bad in that building. Sometimes it gets kind of deafening.”

The Bitter Ende. Joe Daugherty holding guitar at left. Other members unknown – can anyone help with IDs?

The Bitter Ende to play at TCU Tech Stop, November 1967. Same group?
Joe Daugherty formed another group called the Bitter Ende, but I don’t have any info on the membership of that group.

Thank you to Patrick Daugherty for contacting me about his father’s band, and sending in the news clipping and photo of the Bitter Ende.

The Grapes of Wrath “Cause It Was Her” on Vita Records

Members of the Grapes of Wrath group play music worthy of putting on a record. The SPHS students are (left to right) Brian Magnan, Bill Lichty, Ralph Sias, Danny Morrow and William Doheny., San Pedro News-Pilot, May 17, 1967.

The Grapes of Wrath cut one 45, “For Every Year” / “Cause it Was Her”, both written by Ralph Sias.

The group came from San Pedro, California, in the South Bay of Los Angeles.

Members were:

Brian Magnan – lead vocals
Bill Lichty – drums
Ralph Sias – guitar
Danny Morrow – bass
William Doheny – keyboards

H. Eugene MacDonald produced their record, released on Vita Records V-005/V-006 with an address of 301 S. Western Ave, San Pedro, CA.

The San Pedro News-Pilot profiled the group twice, first on May 17, 1967 with an article written by the group’s bassist!

Grapes of Wrath band makes recording noise

By Danny Morrow

“This is it, boys. What’s it going to be next year.- trucks or Cadillacs?” With these words of encouragement from producer, Mr. Roth, and “unknown” teenage band called, hauntedly … “The Grapes of Wrath,” began its first recording session at American Recording Studios in Studio City.

The band is made up of five “crazy” individuals named Ralph Sias, Brian Magnan, Bill Lichty, William Doheney and myself, Danny Morrow.

Ralph writes the songs, plays lead guitar and gets nervous. Brian sings lead vocal and smiles at girls. Bill plays organ and wears leather boots. Williams plays drums and loves drums. I play bass and get in and out of trouble.

At the session, two songs written and arranged by Ralph, were taped in a stretch of nervous sweaty work that lasted five hours. The two songs, “For Every Year,” and “Cause It Was Here,” can presently be heard on the local rock station with a little patience and luck.

With the number of teenage bands easily numbering in the tens of hundreds in California alone, how did this group … manage to talk the Sunburst Record Company into backing a recording session?

First, a few months before the session a rough “demo” (45 RPM recording on a six-inch disk) was recorded at a small recording studio, and the manager, U.L. McDonald took the demo to different recording stations.

The vice-president of Sunburst, Mr. Roth [sic – Adam Ross], was impressed both with the band and the recording …

The next step is up to the “hippies” who buy the records.

The record did not come out on Sunburst, the label that released the E-Types “She Moves Me” and the Zoo’s LP The Zoo Presents Chocolate Moose, as well as a number of pop singles produced by Ed Cobb, but instead saw a release financed by the band under the auspices of H. Eugene MacDonald (the U.L McDonald cited in the article, presumably).

The second article came on September 4, 1967:

Folk-rock group wins popularity

By Rita Pedersen

A San Pedro rock ’n’ roll band has proved long hair and unconventional clothing are not necessary to become popular.

The band, the Grapes of Wrath, is a “short hair” outfit, and wears burgundy-cherry dinner jackets.

Despite their neat appearance, the group leaves Saturday for a week-long tour of Northern California.

The five-member band will appear on a Fresno television show and play in Redding, Red Bluff and North Sacramento Valley.

Members of the band are Ralph Sias, Bill Doheney, Danny Morrow, Brian Mangan and William Lichty, all of San Pedro. They are all San Pedro High School graduates, except for Lichty who will graduate next year.

The tour was arranged when a recording by the band, “Cause It Was Her,” became popular in the Redding area.

Doheney, an amateur radio operator, began talking to a Redding disc jockey Ian Evans, and he offered to play the group’s recording for a trial period.

Listener reaction was good, according to Doheney, and the band was signed for personal appearances.

The group was organized last summer when the youths were on the high school gymnastics team. Only Lichty was not on the team.

Doheney described their style as folk-rock and said Sias and Mangan write many of their songs, including “Cause It Was Her.”

There was a great profile of the band and interview with Bill Doheney, that didn’t include these news clippings, at www.westcoastfog.com/the-grapes-of-wrath/index.html, but unfortunately that site is now defunct. A version of that article was also in print in Ugly Things issue #39.

I see that Achille Brunet has just added a profile of the band at his site, Strange Lights, with more info than I have here. I’m sorry for the duplication, Achille, but glad to see someone else working the ’60s garage beat! It’s been quiet for a long time.

Johnny Johnson and The Bandwagon’s British tours in the late 1960s and early 1970s

This American vocal soul group originated in Rochester, New York, and were originally billed as The Bandwagons (and subsequently The Bandwagon).

Led by lead singer Johnny Johnson, they also comprised singers Bill Bradley; Artie Fullilove; and Terry Lewis.

In March 1968, they recorded “Breakin’ Down the Walls of Heartache”, which reached number 4 on the British charts in October of that year.

This resulted in their first British tour before the year was out. Melody Maker’s 26 October 1968 issue lists the tour dates from 27 November to 22 December on page 23. The same magazine’s 23 November 1968 issue confirms the above line-up on page 14.

Although billed initially as The Bandwagon, a Melody Maker advert (possibly the 30 November issue) notes that the group is called Johnny Johnson & The Bandwagon.

Photo: Tom Maudlin. Left to right: Dick Winters, Paul Thorpe, Tom Maudlin and Richie Thorpe

It also says the soul quartet will be backed by two groups – Enfield, north London soul band Grand Union and a Reading, Berkshire outfit called Oedipus Complex. I’ve not been able to find out much about the latter but Grand Union comprised Richie Thorpe (guitar/vocals), Dick Winters (keyboards/vocals), Tom Maudlin (bass/vocals) and Paul Thorpe (drums/vocals).

When I met Tom Maudlin in Toronto in May this year, he confirmed that, despite Melody Maker listing the gigs the two bands played below, Grand Union, in fact, did the entire tour.

Melody Maker suggested that Grand Union backed Johnny Johnson & The Bandwagon on the following dates.

Tour dates:

28 November 1968 – Revolution Club, Bruton Place, Mayfair, central London (Melody Maker)

29 November 1968 – Hillside Ballroom, Hereford, Herefordshire (Melody Maker)

30 November 1968 – Ritz Ballroom, Bournemouth, Dorset and Corn Exchange, Devizes, Wiltshire (Melody Maker)

1 December 1968 – Surrey Rooms, Oval, south London and Blaises, Kensington, west London (Melody Maker)

2 December 1968 – Pavilion, Bath (Melody Maker)

3 December 1968 – Down Broadway, Sheffield, South Yorkshire and Attic Club, Doncaster, South Yorkshire (Melody Maker)

4 December 1968 – Whittingdon Hotel, Pinner, northwest London (Melody Maker)

5 December 1968 – Gig in Cheam, Surrey (Melody Maker)

5 December 1968 – Whisky A Go Go, Wardour Street, Soho, central London (Melody Maker)

6 December 1968 – Avery Hill College, Eltham, southeast London (Melody Maker)

The band featured in the Kettering Leader, 6 December 1968, page 8

7 December 1968 – Clockwork Orange, Chester, Cheshire, Civic Hall, Nantwich, Cheshire and Twisted Wheel, Manchester (Melody Maker)

8 December 1968 – Black Prince Hotel, Bexley, southeast London (Melody Maker)

9 December 1968 – Orchid Ballroom, Purley, Surrey (Beckenham & Penge Advertiser)

10 December 1968 – Guildhall, Southampton, Hants with The Pyramids (Southern Evening Echo)

11 December 1968 – Bligh Hotel, Sevenoaks, Kent and Samantha’s, central London (Melody Maker)

12 December 1968 – Kursaal, Southend-on-Sea, Essex and Cue Club, Praed Street, Paddington, west London (Melody Maker)

13 December 1968 – White Lion, Edgware, north London and Cue Club, Praed Street, Paddington, west London (Melody Maker)

14 December 1968 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham and Clouds, Derby (Melody Maker)

15 December 1968 – Toby Jug, Tolworth, Surrey (Melody Maker)

16 December 1968 – Golden Torch, Tunstall, Staffordshire and Cedar Club, Birmingham (Melody Maker)

17 December 1968 – Town Hall, High Wycombe, Bucks and Scotch of St James, Mayfair, central London (Melody Maker)

18 December 1968 – Majestic, Wellington, Shropshire (Melody Maker)

19 December 1968 – Guildhall, Plymouth, Devon and 400 Ballroom, Torquay, Devon (Melody Maker)

 

Melody Maker suggested these dates were with Oedipus Complex but Tom Maudlin confirms that Grand Union did the entire tour.

Tour dates:

20 December 1968 – George Inn, Kettering, Northamptonshire and Hatchetts Playground, Piccadilly, central London (Melody Maker)

21 December 1968 – Imperial Ballroom, Nelson, Lancashire (Melody Maker)

22 December 1968 – Tabernacle, Stockport, Greater Manchester and Beau Brummell Club, Nantwich, Cheshire (Melody Maker) Record Retailer only lists the Beau Brummell Club in Nantwich on this date

23 December 1968 – Loyola Hall, Stamford Hill, north London with Pure Medicine (Melody Maker)

24 December 1968 – Gala Ballroom, Norwich, Norfolk (Melody Maker)

25 December 1968 – Sherwood Rooms, Nottingham (Melody Maker) Record Retailer lists Lypla in Stamford possibly as a second gig on this date

26 December 1968 – Locarno, Stevenage, Herts (Melody Maker)

27 December 1968 – Victorianna and Mardi Gras, Liverpool (Melody Maker)

28 December 1968 – New Astoria, Rawtenstall and Twisted Wheel, Manchester (Melody Maker)

29 December 1968 – Locarno, Wakefield, West Yorkshire (Melody Maker)

31 December 1968 – New Century Hall, Manchester and Nevada Ballroom, Bolton, Lancashire (Melody Maker)

 

1 January 1969 – Top Rank, Preston, Lancashire (Melody Maker)

2 January 1969 – Assembly Hall, Worthing, West Sussex (Melody Maker)

3 January 1969 – Tofts, Folkestone, Kent (Melody Maker)

4 January 1969 – Boston Gliderdrome, Boston, Lincolnshire (Melody Maker)

5 January 1969 – Crystal Palace Hotel, south London and Jewish Youth Club, Fillebrook, Leyton, east London (Melody Maker)

6 January 1969 – St Matthew’s Bath, Ipswich, Suffolk (Melody Maker)

Melody Maker notes in early January that Johnny Johnson & The Bandwagon’s British tour was extended.

The music magazine reports that from 7-11 January they played in Ireland and then did cabaret at the Fiesta in Stockton and the Showboat in Middlesbrough from 12-18 January. They then toured Scotland from 22-26 January.

Tour dates:

30 January 1969 – Skyline Ballroom, Hull (Melody Maker)

31 January 1969 – Scene Two, Scarborough, North Yorkshire (Melody Maker)

 

1 February 1969 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire (Melody Maker)

2 February 1969 – Bellevue, Manchester (Melody Maker)

3 February 1969 – Golden Torch, Tunstall, Staffordshire (Melody Maker)

4 February 1969 – Majestic, Wellington, Shropshire (Record Retailer)

6 February 1969 – Old Time Barn, Abergavenny, Wales (Record Retailer)

7 February 1969 – Princess Theatre, Chorlton, Greater Manchester and Domino Club, Openshaw, Greater Manchester (Record Retailer)

8 February 1969 – Imperial Ballroom, Nelson, Lancashire (Record Retailer)

13 February 1969 – Sloopy’s, Manchester (Record Retailer)

14 February 1969 – Royal, Tottenham, north London (Record Retailer)

15 February 1969 – Elms Court, Oxford (Record Retailer)

Melody Maker reports that they returned to Ireland from 13-17 February but this needs confirmation.

17 February 1969 – Orchid Ballroom, Purley, Surrey (Chris Broom’s book Rockin’ and around Croydon)

After returning to the United States, Johnny Johnson & The Bandwagon returned to Britain for a second tour in spring 1969. Grand Union were once again used as the backing band. Due to their success in Britain, the soul group relocated here and based themselves in London.

Before the second tour starts, Les Lambert, who used to be the group’s amp repair expert, takes over from Dick Winters on keyboards

These dates are incomplete

Tour dates:

1 April 1969 – Gaumont Theatre, Wolverhampton, West Midlands with Martha Reeves & The Vandellas and guest star Marv Johnson (Poster)

2 April 1969 – Orchid Ballroom, Purley, Surrey with Martha Reeves & The Vandellas (Chris Broom’s book Rockin’ and around Croydon)

26 April 1969 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with Soft Sensation (http://www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

 

16 May 1969 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London (Melody Maker)

17 May 1969 – Cue Club, Praed Street, Paddington, west London (Melody Maker)

21 June 1969 – Music Hall, Shrewsbury with The Klubs (North Shropshire Journal)

Melody Maker’s 28 June 1969 issue, page 4, reports that Terry Lewis has left

26 July 1969 – Queen’s Hall, Narbeth, west Wales with Tin Foil (Pembroke & West Wales Guardian)

These dates are incomplete

Tour dates:

2 August 1969 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Sun and First Back from Heaven (http://www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

30 August 1969 – Royal Lancashire Showground, Blackpool, Lancashire with Amen Corner, The Casuals, Vanity Fayre and many others (Melody Maker)

 

20 September 1969 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, west London with Justin Tyme (Melody Maker)

Around this time, Tom Maudlin leaves and relocates to Toronto in October 1969. He is replaced by bass player/singer Roger Flavell from west London group, The Magic Roundabout.

These dates are incomplete

Tour dates:

10 October 1969 – Starlite Ballroom, Sudbury, northwest London with Sir Coxsone (Melody Maker)

25 October 1969 – Formby Hall, Atherton, Lancashire with Phoenix City Smash (Bolton News)

31 October 1969 – Oakengates Town Hall, Oakengates, Shropshire with Grand Union and Jigsaw (North Shropshire Journal)

 

16 November 1969 – Garrick Theatre Club, Leigh, Greater Manchester with The Johnny Martin Sound, Ralph Turner, The Delights, Mandy Williams and Vic Lezal (Widnes Weekly News)

Melody Maker reports that another British tour (with Grand Union) commences on 16 January 1970.

These dates are incomplete

Tour dates:

10 January 1970 – Central Hall, Chatham, Kent with Desmond Dekker & The Aces and The Pyramids (Chatham, Rochester and Gillingham Evening Post)

7 March 1970 – Wem Town Hall, Wem, Shropshire with Grand Union and Street (North Shropshire Journal)

 

2 May 1970 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Invitations and supporting groups (http://www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

 

4 July 1970 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Pyramids and supporting groups (http://www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

 

31 December 1970 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Pioneers (http://www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

When the band broke up in early 1971, the Thorpe brothers played in the bands Moonstone and Life.  Roger Flavell briefly joined Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band and then played with The Tommy Hunt Band among others.

Thanks to Tom Maudlin and Roger Flavell for information about the band. Thanks to Tom for the posters.

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