The Witness Inc.

The early Witness, Inc. (l-r): Craig Kaleal, Les Bateman, Kenny Shields, Ed Clynton and Dennis Tremeer
The early Witness, Inc. (l-r): Craig Kaleal, Les Bateman, Kenny Shields, Ed Clynton and Dennis Tremeer

Witness Inc, second and longest-lasting lineup, l-r: Ed Clynton, Dave Tupper, Kenny Shields, Allen Ayers and Les Bateman (kneeling).
Second and longest-lasting lineup, l-r: Ed Clynton, Dave Tupper, Kenny Shields, Allen Ayers and Les Bateman (kneeling)
The Witness Inc. came out of Saskatoon in the central Canadian province of Saskatchewan and immediately became a touring sensation in the western provinces. They released a series of 45s which became increasingly pop after the second. The band finally caught on in Ontario after several years and many personnel changes.The original band consisted of Kenny Shields vocals, Ed Clynton guitar, Dennis Tremeer bass, Les Bateman organ and piano, and Craig Kaleal on drums. I was surprised to learn that the band traveled to New Mexico to record their first 45, probably at Norman Petty’s studio in Clovis.

“I’ll Forget Her Tomorrow”, is a fine pop song, backed with “Girl Before You Go”, an original by Dennis Tremeer (listed as Doug Tremeer in the BMI database). The picture sleeve features a different band lineup than the group on the recording, with new members Dave Tupper on drums and Allen Ayers on bass.

The Witness Inc. (Witnesses) and the Guess Who at the ManhattanThe A-side of their second record, “Jezebel”, is a cover of the old Frankie Laine standard. As good as the Teddy Boys version, it was probably their biggest hit, reaching #1 on CKXL in Calgary in February, 1968.

Younger fans like myself generally prefer the flip side, “Not You Girl”, an original by Ed Clynton and Les Bateman, which speeds by in a hasty 1:46 with a great scream from Shields and an nifty organ solo by Bateman.

The January 13, 1969 issue of RPM Weekly announces that the band had dropped the ‘Inc.’ from their name for their fifth single, “So Come With Me”, recorded at Sound Canada studios in Toronto. Surprisingly the article says this was their first Canadian session!

The Witness Inc. Apex 45 Not You Girl

45 releases:

I’ll Forget Her Tomorrow/Girl Before You Go (Apex 77044) Sleeve
Jezebel/Not You Girl (Apex 77063) Sleeve
Harlem Lady/I Put A Spell On You (Apex 77077, & in U.S., Decca 32328) Sleeve
Visions Of Vanessa/Another Side Of Her (Apex 77087) Sleeve / Reverse
So Come With Me/I’ve Got To Go (Apex 77093)

Saskatooon Musician's Association Annual Social 1967
Thank you to Ivan Amirault for providing scans of the sleeves, and to Peter Studer for the clip of I’ll Forget Her. Very special thanks to Cory for the photos and clippings of the original lineup from his father Dennis Tremeer’s scrapbook.

Witness Inc., first lineup at the Saskatoon Musicians Social, l-r: Craig Kaleal, Kenny Shields, Dennis Tremeer, Les Bateman and Ed Clynton
First lineup at the Saskatoon Musicians Social, l-r: Craig Kaleal, Kenny Shields, Dennis Tremeer, Les Bateman and Ed Clynton
RPM Weekly, January 13, 1969, now simply 'The Witness'.
RPM Weekly, January 13, 1969, now simply ‘The Witness’. Thanks to Chris Smith of the Factree for the clipping
Witness Inc. news item from Jan. 13, 1969 RPM Weekly
news item from Jan. 13, 1969 RPM Weekly

77 thoughts on “The Witness Inc.”

  1. I saw Witness twice when I was a kid in Saskatoon. The first time was when they and The Fifth opened for Dino,Desi and Billy( my very fist concert) and again when they opened for the Troggs.I would love to get a copy of “I’ll forget her tomorrow.” I was 10 years old when I first saw them at the old arena in Saskatoon and 11 years old when they played the Centenial Auditorium. If anyone could assist me in locating some of their music it would be very much appreciated. I am always scouring used record stores etc. for their 45’s. I relly enjoyed listening to their version of Jezebel, I saw Herman’s Hermits do it and I prefer the Witness version. It really takes me back everytime I hear it. Thanks for sharing a great site…Mark

    1. I was 16 years old in 1967… Kenny Shields and Witness Incorporated were fantastic. . … Back then it was great entertainment in farm land Saskatchewan. We used to hit as many of their dances as we could. Thought nothing of driving 100 miles in minus 40 weather for it. Now in 2016, …. I still take in Kenny as often as I can. The man is a legend in my books……..
      Stan. ………….

    2. Yes, I agree with you on the song Jezebel! I had that 45 in Midland, MI and listened to it all the time. Theirs was the best version. I still love it and I want to buy it again. I was about 14 or 15 I would say.

    3. Hi.
      Don’t know how old your post is.
      I have some of there 45’s.
      I was related to Kenny.
      Is there a value past sentiment on their old records.
      G.

    4. Was at that show Mark yrs later worked with Les Bateman on many projects in Vancouver and Toronto.. he lived in Toronto and should be on Facebook. He also works with Drake.

    1. Mr. Emerson…just looking through this and saw this entry…I’m a long time DJ from Sask. and I remember the band when you were The Staccatos…I have a vinyl copy of A Wild Pair…just thought I’d toss that in.

  2. Hello Peter, hey that would be great if you could do that. If you have anything else buy Witness inc. that would be greatly appreciated as well. This band’s music means a lot to me. Thankyou very much for your generosity and consideration…Mark Beler

  3. I saw Witness Inc in Edmonton a few times in my early teens and then the band Witness played one of my high school dances at Bonnie Doon High School (and high we were) about 1972 or 73 or 74.

    “Harlem Lady” was my fav Witness Inc. tune. I played the crap out of my Apex 45. Wish I had that one now.

    A couple of weeks back I was reading Bob Ego’s web page. He lists all his recording dates from the 60s & 70s. There was a lot of familiar names on that page from Witness Inc to Streetheart and a whole lot in between.
    I love the history of these bands. I could research them for days and not get bored.

  4. I tend to place this band in the Witness category. Nice pop stuff and nice garage stuff. I finally found the collection at the library.

  5. Hi Mark – we may know each other from Saskatoon days. I’d like to talk about that Witness concert with you.

    Brock S.

  6. Hi Richard:

    I’d very much like to talk with you about those Witness concerts you saw in Edmonton – I am writing something on the band.

    Brock

    1. Hi Brock
      Wish I knew more. I am related to Kenny.
      I have few of the 45’s.
      I know they were in a horrible car crash. He sang at an aunt’s funeral many years ago.
      Took a while but got their break through into the music scene. As with most of the family they all had heart problems.
      G.

  7. Hi Peter

    I too remember The Witness Inc from my days in Saskatoon. Is there anyway that you could e-mail me Harlem Lady please

    Cheers

    David

  8. Kenny Shields emailed me a few weeks back to let me know that he is working over the summmer to compile the Witness singles and B sides into a compilation cd. I would suggest you find the Streetheart website to make further inquiries. He didn’t specify where copies could be obtained once the cd is done. I have the complete set of 45’s which were very scratchy but Cooledit Pro did a very nice job of cleaning up all the crackle, ticks and pops. Streetheart site also says a compilation cd of the Streetheart is avaialble but it doesn’t state how to get a copy.

  9. the Witness usually appeared on the Apex label….FYI, anyone looking for more Witness stuff just Google “Harlem Lady”.

  10. Brock, I have a couple of old pics of the Witness Inc, Around the time their first single came out. One is a promo shot of them posing under one of the bridges in Saskatoon (I think it;s the University Bridge, but I may be mistaken), the other is a photo of them at the annual social of the Saskatoon Musician’s association, 1967. I have a copy of the ticket to that event as well. I also have a newspaper ad from when they opened up for The Guess Who at the Manhattan Ballroom (both bands names are misspelled).

    Give me an e-mail if want copies of this stuff, I’ve got it all scanned into my computer.

    4ct12@queensu.ca

  11. Wow… such great memories. I remember the garage bands like Witness Inc., The Lords from Edmonton (I think)… Thin Red Line… those were the days… does anyone have a copy of “Vision of Vanessa” and “Girl Before You Go”?? I have all the other songs by Witness Inc…
    thanks…
    fizzywigg@hotmail.com

  12. Witness Inc songs also appear on a couple of garage compilation CDs: “Quagmire, Volume 8: A Further Observance of Sixties Punk” (Finest Hour Records), and “Wyld Canada, Vol. 1: Crazy Things” (downloads only).

    Last summer I was in little Nokomis, Saskatchewan, and the museum there still displays photos & news stories about local boy Kenny Shields.

  13. Brock: The gig that Richard is referring to was the last gig that we did with Bob Ego, Larry Chalmers, Ed Kilbride, Bill Hardie, Les Bateman and myself in April 1971 and couldn’t have been any further from the original Witness with only Les Bateman as the remaining member that was on any of the records. I probably emailed you the photos that Richard sent me from the Bonnie Doon yearbook and Bob Ego recently came up with another one from the same gig that shows everyone but Bateman. If not get hold of me or Ego and we’ll update you.

    Bob W

  14. The singles collection is now available from Pacemaker Entertainment Ltd., Toronto (www.pacemaker.cd). It’s been a long wait but well worth it. Good luck to the group on the success of the cd.

  15. I saw them play at Wynyard, Saskatchewan on Boxing Day (night), Dec.26, 1968.
    $1.75 to get in; nearly twice the price of a regular dance.
    Worth every penny.
    They packed the Civic Center.
    I love their music.

  16. I recall first seeing Witness in the summer of 1966 or 67 when they held a practice outdoors close to my home in Gladmer Park. I believe it was the house at the corner of Hilliard St. and William Ave. The day was graced with bright sun and warm vibes which led to a spontaneous equipment set up outside – I heard the music from a couple blocks away and, like many others, followed it Pied Piper like. Lots of girls showed up (no surprise) and they did versions of “I’ll Forget Her Tomorrow” and some covers of Britsh rock tunes.

    I recently ran into Ed Clynton’s niece (Jill Zmud) who is a singer/songwriter living in Ottawa and she has (and still plays) her uncle’s guitar.

  17. Hi Gerry:

    Interesting story…. could I contact you about Witness? As I’ve said in a previous posting here, I’m compiling a book on the band and would love to talk to fans that recall their performances.

    Brock

  18. Hi Patricia:

    Could I contact you about your Witness memories? I am writing a book on the band, and I’d love to hear your account of their concert in Wynyard.

  19. One more thing: Bell bottoms had just come into style. Not huge bells, but noticeable.
    Kenny appeared on stage with the biggest bells that started at his knee, and went clean down to the floor, with a small split at the bottom to allow for an even flow to the floor. Hipsters too, with a big wide belt. SO SEXY.

    When I went back to school in January, I had a pair just like them. Purple too.
    Mom was an excellent seamstress. And I looked good!

  20. Hi Pat:

    I’ve tried to phone your number several times, but I keep getting the high pitched squeal that I assume comes from a fax machine. Could I e-mail you instead?

    Brock

  21. I remember growing up listening to these guys and today with Kenny and Streetheart back together it is good times since they are redoing some of the old Witness music. I was in the local Lions band with the Guthiel brothers from the original Streetheart.

  22. Hi Dave:

    As I have mentioned in some of the above messages, I am writing a book on the history of Witness Inc. Could I get in touch with you regarding some of your reminiscences?

  23. My friend from work and I were just talking about famous people we have actually talked to and I was reminded that I met Kenny Shields and Witness Inc. in 1966 or 67 when they opened for the Dave Clark Five at the Exhibition Stadium in Regina. Also, 49th Parallel was there too and White Knight who smashed their guitars. In Regina, we had never witnessed a band do that. What a rush that was. I forgot some of the songs that witness did until I looked them up on the net and got to this site. I am going to http://www.pacemaker.cd to order some of the tunes now. Thanks for the memories.
    S

  24. For Witness M3s – go to AMAZON.CA, EMI RECORDS, CD PLUS OR HMV MUSIC ON LINE. PUT IN YOUR SEARCH AND YOU SHOULD FIND A CD WITH ALL THE HITS.

  25. Hi Shirley:

    I am writing a book on Witness Inc. and would very much like to get in touch with you to ask you about the DC5 concert. If you are up to it, let me know how to contact you.

    Thanks,

    Brock

  26. They can be purchased at any Kenny Shields and Streetheart show in Canada. Also on kennyshieldsandstreetheart.com This is as of 2010 and 2011.

  27. My mom was Les Bateman’s organ teacher and my dad sold him the organ he used. Well, not exactly “sold”. As I remember it, Les traded a Kawasaki motorcycle for it and then, again if I remember correctly, horrified my dad by having it cut in half. I think it was either a Hammond or a Thomas organ. When I was a kid I remember Les hanging around at my dad’s music store a lot, or he might just have been there for lessons. If you’re reading this, Les, my mom is 92 now and living in Kelowna.

  28. I just spoke with Kenny Shields today. He was doing a television interview. I mentioned the dances at St. Joe’s on Broadway where Witness played.
    I have about 4 Witness Inc. 45s I would love the MP3 versions so I can put them on my ipod. If you have them, would you please consider sharing them with me.
    Thanks

  29. You can get all Witness Inc. 45’s on Witness Inc. – The Singles cd. A Pacemaker relese number 072. It includes as a hidden bonus track the strings in the background version of So Come With Me as well. A nice six page foldout completes the package for about $15.00 Canadian. On top of all that royalties are paid to the people involved with the music. A great deal I think.

  30. Hi Wendy:

    As you may have noticed from my other posts, I am writing a history of Witness. Can I contact you?

    Brock

    1. Hi Brook. I used to hang with and party with the guys when in Saskatoon and Toronto.If you wish to learn more you may contact me.

  31. Hi Diane:

    I am writing a book on the history of witness and would love to include the reminiscences of fans who saw them. I have heard about their legendary dances at St. Joes in Saskatoon. Can I contact you?

  32. I have a collection of RPM magazines. It was a trade publication for the music industry in Canada, the Canadian Billboard sort of speak. I can find some news articles and record release ads for this project if you are interested.

  33. Hi Ivan:

    Thank you for an amazingly generous offer of looking through RPM. I went through the entire run at the Toronto Public Library and I believe I’ve found every mention of Witness.

    Much appreciated…Brock

  34. Hi Wendy:

    I honestly do not know if your e-mail address will show up. If you would rather it did not, perhaps you can just contact me at the University of Toronto, Media Commons?

    Thanks,

    Brock

  35. Hi Patty
    Wasn’t that a great dance!!
    Wintess Inc actually played in Wynyard 2 or 3 times while we were in high school.
    My favorite band and Jezebel is still one of my favorite songs.

  36. Hi Brock
    I went to high school in Wynyard and graduated in 72.
    70-72 I was president of the Wynyard Teen club and was responsible for booking bands for dances.
    Kenny Shields and wintness Inc were there I think 3 times and each time I got to hang out and watch them set up
    and take down. I also paid them at the end of the night. If I remember correctly, it was about $175 for the 1st time and up to around $300 the last.
    I had quite aa crush on Kenny and was so upset to hear that he was so badly injured in a car accident in Saskatoon. I remember it was on the corner of 8th Street and cummberland Ave.
    I still think of him every time I go past that intersection.
    Patty (Patricia Melsted) has a much more vivid memory than I but I do remember ripping open the outside seam of my blue jeans and adding a huge piece to make the big bell bottoms.
    Sandy

    1. Hi Sandy:

      As you can tell, I haven’t been back to this site for a while. I would love to get in touch with you to ask more questions about your Witness memories. How can I do so? Or maybe it’s better if I let you contact me at the University of Toronto, Media Commons.

      Brock

  37. Brock,

    I am quite sure that I remember my older brother telling me that he saw Witness Inc. at Kenosee Gardens (In the Moose Mountains of southeast Saskatchewan) in the summer of 1967 or 1968.

    I could verify this if it is of interest.

    Charles

  38. Any info regarding Ed Clynton would be appreciated. I went to school with him. Also, am interested in any recordings that would be available with Ed included. Thank you in advance.

  39. I was 17 yrs old, and in S’toon, Sk. and partied with Kenny Shields after one of their gigs; a local man whom was a booking agent and the Witness band
    played a gig in the city! After, we all got together and partied at his house,
    not far from S’toon City Hospital, haha! I clinked beer bottles with Kenny,
    and had a great talk with him that night! Was at least 44 years ago, holy cow!!! But very much in my memory! I found this site by actually searching on his past music, etc:
    By the way, I was in a band as well for last 15 years or so; and our last drummer was none other than: “Dave Tupper” from the early “Witness Inc”. He is a great guy and great drummer! Who would have thunk it 40 years ago, holy crap!

  40. My brother Howard Exley, friend Kerry Kellough and I, formed a band threesome in 1966 called “The Oracles” in Saskatoon. We played all original songs without doing any covers, something which did not go over well. But, we always envied and admired The Witnesses for their talent hard work and great sound. Kenney Shields deserves the success he has enjoyed and more. He is the pride of Saskatoon even though he seems to be connected to Winnipeg now. Next thing you know Winnipeg will be claiming Gordie Howe, LOL. Rock On Kenney Shields, you are a class act.

  41. Just came across this by accident & love reminiscing with some of the comments, I remember the dances at St Joes too. I actually played trumpet in the Lions band in Stoon when Craig Kaleal was playing drums. Dave Tupper actually lived kiddie corner from me, I lived on Albert avenue & he on 10th street in Stoon. I also remember knowing Les Bateman from school or something but not sure. Sure miss those days. Kenny playing here in St. Albert, Ab.,this month so trying to get over to watch the band. Best wishes to past & present band members, you have given us much to reflect on.

    1. Found this site while looking for old music. I heard Witness Inc play at our high school dance in Winnipeg sometime 1969/70. Next day, I went to the record store to buy a copy of “So Come With Me”, it was there last copy. My buddy was ticked that he couldn’t get one. About 1984, I was flying from Prince George to Vancouver and sat with a former member of Witness Inc. Can’t remeber his name but he couldn’t believe that I even heard of them. He had been in PG with the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra. Their music was great. I still have my 45 single and in great shape. Still play the old records once in awhile.

  42. I was a ‘roadie’ for Witness in April 1969 for a Prairie tour that ended with the departure of Allen ‘Skip’ Ayers and Eddie Clynton. Since my roadie colleague was also named Jim and physically bigger than me, he became ‘Big’ Jim and I was ‘Little’ Jim (I stand 6’3″). Everyone should check out Eddie’s niece, Jill Zmud. Google her name and see what she’s got.

      1. Hi Brock
        Wish I knew more. I am related to Kenny.
        I have few of the 45’s.
        I know they were in a horrible car crash. He sang at an aunt’s funeral many years ago.
        Took a while but got their break through into the music scene. As with most of the family they all had heart problems.
        G.

  43. I am a Hendry from Nokomis, and have been a fan since I was a child. I was recently sent a copy of ‘Harlem Lady’ and was told that the back story was very interesting. I would love to hear it….

  44. I attended a couple of the Witness dances st St.Joe’s on Broadway in Saskatoon in ’68 or ’69. AWESOME. I also have three of their 45s. Anyone interested in these? Offers??

  45. Sadly, Kenny Shields passed away at St. Boniface Hospital in Winnipeg on Friday July 21, 2017. Kenny was 69.
    A gentleman and gentle man.

  46. Even though I was just in kindergarten at the time, I can clearly remember “Jezebel” by Witness Inc. being played on the radio in Saskatoon around 1967-68. A huge hit. RIP Kenny Shields.

  47. Very nice songs, and „Put spell on you“ which I’ve found on documentary about Jens Söring. But can not buy song anywhere in Germany nor Spotify has this songs 🙁

    Maybe anyone has a source or could share???
    Arkadius.Smith@gmail.com

    Would pay for there songs. Especially I was looking for „Put a spell on you“ 🙂

  48. For what it is worth, I am from Saskatoon and the same age as the guys in Witness Inc. I went to school with Les Bateman and hung out a bit with his younger brother Jim. Everybody knew that Les was the keyboardist for Witness and that made him a bit of a big deal. But that band was a very big deal. They were way ahead of the others. If they were playing a community dance you had to get there early or you had no chance of getting in. When I was in grade 12 I was a house leader and for our house dance we took a chance – a very big chance – and booked them for the Valentine’s dance. This would be in 69 – 70. They were expensive. So we upped the ticket prices, invited “guests” from other schools and held our breath. It was a huge success. We broke even. Kenny Shield was a legend in those days. Originally from Unity I think. That guy had a serious set of pipes.

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