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Johnny Kidd & The New Pirates

Photo: Nick Simper. Left to right: Johnny Kidd, Mick Stewart, Roger Truth, Nick Simper and Ray Soper at Kingsbury Odeon on 21 May 1966

Johnny Kidd (lead vocals)

Mick Stewart (lead guitar/vocals)

Nick Simper (bass/vocals)

Ray Soper (keyboards)

Roger Truth (drums)

When legendary British singer Johnny Kidd decided to part with the original Pirates after a gig on 19 April 1966, he had some outstanding gigs to honour and hired several, temporary, groups to fulfil the bookings, one of which was west London R&B outfit Jeff Curtis & The Flames.

The band’s drummer, Pete Burt, younger brother of Dave Burt in Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers, was a window cleaner and was cleaning Kidd’s windows one day when they got talking. The group played a couple of gigs with Kidd, including a naval base in Chatham, before keyboard player Ray Soper was fired.

Unknown group back Kidd as The New Pirates. Image may be subject to copyright

Interestingly, Johnny Kidd & The Pirates played at the annual Festival Gardens Gala in Battersea on 7 May but it’s very doubtful that his backing band were The Flames on this occasion as they were performing at the Locarno Ballroom in Swindon on this date.

Soper decided to form a new group to carry on as Kidd’s new version of The Pirates and got hold of his friend, bass player Nick Simper, who he’d previously worked with in Buddy Britten & The Regents and Cryano & The Bergeracs during late 1964-mid-1965. Roger Truth was the drummer in both groups.

In need of a guitarist, they brought in Mick Stewart who’d, previously played with a number of west London bands, notably The Redcaps and The All-Nite Workers (who briefly backed singer Simon Scott).

Anyone interested in reading more about this period, should read Nick Simper’s excellent story. Adie Barrett’s excellent site is also worth exploring.

The new line-up’s debut gig was in Bromley, southeast London.

The gigs below are all from Nick Simper’s diary unless otherwise noted:

Notable gigs:

14 May 1966 – Bromley, south London (most likely Bromley Court Hotel) (debut)

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20 May 1966 – Royal Albion Hotel, Walton-on-the-Naze, Essex (Essex County Standard)

21 May 1966 – Odeon, Kingsbury, north London

26 May 1966 – Leas Cliff Hall, Folkestone, Kent

27 May 1966 – Abergavenny, Wales (most likely Town Hall)

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17 June 1966 – Victoria Cross Gallery, Wantage, Oxfordshire (North Berks Herald)

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19 June 1966 – Plaza Ballroom, Newbury, Berkshire (North Berks Herald)

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25 June 1966 – Leas Cliff Hall, Folkestone, Kent (Kentish Express)

26 June 1966 – Bure Club, Mudeford, Dorset (Website: https://bournemouthbeatboom.wordpress.com/gigs-1966/)

 

?? July 1966 – Gig in Oxford

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16 July 1966 – Royal Lido, Prestatyn, Clwyd, Wales with The Atlantic Sounds (Rhyl & Prestayn Gazette)

?? July 1966 – Gig in Seaton, Devon (most likely Seaton Beat Club at Seaton Town Hall)

Ray Soper left at this point and joined The Denims/Headline News

 

?? August 1966 – Winter Gardens, Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset with Eden Kane (with Peter Sarstedt on bass)

?? August 1966 – Gig in Grimsby, Lincolnshire

19 August 1966 – Caird Hall, Dundee, Scotland (first date on Scottish tour) with The Red Hawks, Dunfermline Boys, The Ivy League, The Jay-Birds, The St Louis Union and David and Jonathan (http://www.adiebarrett.co.uk/johnnykidd/timeline/timeline.htm)

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26 August 1966 – The Leys, Clacton, Essex with Hap & Unit Four and Buzz Inc (Essex County Standard)

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29 August 1966 – Civic Hall, Nantwich, Cheshire with The Outer Limits (Nantwich Chronicle)

29 August 1966 – Regal Ballroom, Ripley, Derbyshire (Derbyshire Evening Telegraph) Also booked to play 12 November 1966 but cancelled

 

3 September 1966 – Birmingham Flower Show, Handsworth Park, Birmingham with Tony Jackson & The Vibrations (Sports Argus)

3 September 1966 – Gig in Orpington, Kent

19-25 September 1966 – Cabaret dates at Flamingo Club, Darlington with Robb Storme & The Whispers (with former Mojos member Lewis Collins on bass)

 

1 October 1966 – Raven Club, RAF Waddington, Lincolnshire

6 October 1966 – Gig in Oldham (some source say Bolton), Lancashire (cancelled)

7 October 1966 – Tried to get gig at Nelson Imperial, Nelson, Lancashire but not successful

Kidd and Simper were involved in a car crash on the return journey to London in the early hours of 8 October, a few miles south of Bury, Lancashire. Simper was seriously injured. Kidd, however, was pronounced dead on his arrival at Bolton Royal Infirmary.

In the aftermath, Mick Stewart participated in a Jerry Lee Lewis tour. Then, once Simper had recuperated, Simper and Stewart hooked up with Bobby Hebb for a UK tour, debuting on 1 December 1966 while Truth joined Freddie Mack & The Mack Sound.

The New Pirates:

Mick Stewart (lead guitar/vocals)

Nick Simper (bass/vocals)

John Carroll (keyboards/vocals)

Roger Truth (drums)

Sometime in early February, Simper and Stewart decided to reform The New Pirates. Truth, who’d been playing with Freddie Mack & The Mack Sound, agreed to re-join and they brought in keyboard player John Carroll, who’d recently left Tony Knight’s Chessmen.

According to Melody Maker, The New Pirates played at the Upper Cut in Forest Gate, east London on 17 February 1967 with The Afex and The Trekkas.

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However, the Newham, West Ham & East Ham, Barking and Stratford Express lists The Apex and Jo Jo Gunne as support.

Photo: Nick Simper. Left to right: John Carroll, Roger Truth, Nick Simper and Mick Stewart, February 1967 prior to Cornwall tour

Truth played the London show and then, a few days before a short tour of Cornwall commenced, he returned to Freddie Mack’s band, possibly for that group’s gig at the Village in Cleethorpes on 22 February.

James Smith, who’d worked with Carroll in The London Beats in 1965, auditioned but turned the job down and subsequently joined Hamilton & The Hamilton Movement in March (replacing Phil Wainman).

John Kerrison, who’d previously drummed with a number of bands, notably Frankie Reid & The Casuals and The Rockin’ Eccentrics, took his place.

The revised line-up undertook the Cornwall tour and played a couple of gigs in England before heading to Scotland.

Notable gigs:

23 February 1967 – Royal Naval Air Station, Helston, Cornwall

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24 February 1967 – Winter Gardens, Penzance, Cornwall with The Hoboes (West Briton & Royal Cornwall Gazette)

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25 February 1967 – Blue Lagoon, Newquay, Cornwall with The Other Five (West Briton & Royal Cornwall Gazette)

 

3 March 1967 – Gig in Welwyn Garden City, Herts (possibly Woodhall Community Centre)

24-25 March 1967 – Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, Scotland with Unit 4 Plus 2, Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch, Screaming Lord Sutch and The Mack Sound

27 March 1967 – Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, Scotland with Unit 4 Plus 2, Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch, Screaming Lord Sutch and The Mack Sound

Returning to London, the band found there was little demand for The New Pirates and the members started to look around for other work.

Thanks to his contacts with bass player Peter Carney who he had worked with in The Flexmen and The London Beats (and briefly Tony Knight’s Chessmen), Carroll played with Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band for a few weeks (debuting on 26 April in Croydon) before Dave Greenslade was taken on as a permanent member.

According to Nick Simper’s website, The New Pirates met on 1 May 1967 to discuss their future and decided to go their separate ways.

Later that month, Simper would join Billie Davis & The Quality. However, when work dried up, he became a member of Screaming Lord Sutch & The Savages during July. Next he signed up with The Flowerpot Men (September 1967-February 1968) before forming the original Deep Purple.

After his brief time with Geno Washington, John Carroll worked with Herbie Goins & The Nightimers from August 1967 through to March 1968. He then played with The Flowerpot Men briefly (just after Simper had departed). In early 1969, he was part of the backing band appearing on Stevie Wonder’s UK tour.

In late August, 1967, John Kerrison joined Episode Six who featured future Deep Purple members Ian Gillan and Roger Glover and remained until August 1968.

After working on a few projects (including working with Don Arden’s son David), Mick Stewart joined Hamilton & The Hamilton Movement around October 1967 and stayed until April 1968. He then worked with The James Royal Set before working briefly with The Flowerpot Men in late 1968 (after Carroll had departed). During 1969, he replaced Frank Torpey in The Sweet.

Interestingly, a band called themselves The New Pirates was billed to perform the following dates, but it’s not clear who the musicians were.

2 July 1967 (for two weeks) – Blue Lagoon, Newquay, Cornwall (West Briton & Royal Cornish Gazette)

Roger Truth might have been one of the members as he left Freddie Mack at the end of June 1967.

Big thank you to Adrian Barrett, Nick Simper, Ray Soper, John Carroll, Mick Stewart and John Kerrison.

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Tony Knight’s Chessmen’s gigs 1964-1967

Welcome to another posting of a series of gig listings for 1960s bands. None of these lists is exhaustive and my idea is to add to them in the comments section below over time. They are here for future researchers to draw on.  I have also added a few interesting bits of information and will add images in time.

I’d like to encourage band members to get in touch to share memories, or for anyone to send corrections/clarifications to my email: Warchive@aol.com 

Equally important, if you attended any of the gigs below or played in the support band, please do leave your memories below in the comments section for future historians to use. If you know of any missing gigs, please add them too, if possible, with the sources.

TONY KNIGHT’S CHESSMEN:

Tony Knight (aka Tony Brown) – drums/lead vocals

Lol Coxhill – tenor/soprano saxophone

John Gummer – baritone saxophone/trumpet

Terry Martin – bass/vocals

Jeff Reed – organ

Formed in 1964 by Tony Knight and Terry Martin, who were from Wolverhampton. Lol Coxhill was a seasoned jazzer

1964

2 May 1964 – Hazell’s Hall, Aylesbury, Bucks (Bucks Advertiser) Billed as The Chessmen

23 May 1964 – Assembly Hall, Aylesbury, Bucks with The Redcaps and The Telstars (Bucks Advertiser) Billed as The Chessmen featuring Jeff Read on organ

 

3 October 1964 – Central Club, Farnham, Surrey (Farnham Herald)

 

15 November 1964 – North Warnborough Village Hall, Hampshire (Hampshire & Berkshire Gazette)

16 November 1964 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book) Billed as The Chessmen

 

15 December 1964 – Ricky Tick, Aylesbury Borough Assembly Hall, Market Square, Aylesbury, Bucks with Rufus Thomas (Bucks Advertiser)

19 December 1964 – Corn Exchange, Chelmsford, Essex with Rufus Thomas (Essex Chronicle)

26 December 1964 – Ricky Ticky Club, Plaza Ballroom, Guildford, Surrey with The Cheynes (Surrey Advertiser)

1965

5 January 1965 – Bluesville, Aylesbury, Bucks (website: http://aylesburymusictown.co.uk/)

16 January 1965 – Le Disque A Go Go, Landsdowne, Dorset (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

17 January 1965 – Black Prince Hotel, Bexley, southeast London (Melody Maker)

29 January 1965 – Lynx Club, Boreham Wood, Herts (Melody Maker)

30 January 1965 – Victoria Ballroom, Cambridge (Cambridge News) Billed as The Chessmen

 

2 February 1965 – Lorain Club, Royal Forest Hotel, Chingford, east London (Walthamstow Guardian) Club’s opening night

5 February 1965 – New Fender Club, Fenton, Middlesex (Greenford Weekly Post)

12 February 1965 – Ricky Tick, Guildford Civic Hall, Guildford, Surrey (Ricky Tick website: https://www.rickytick.com/)

14 February 1965 – Blue Moon, Hayes, Middlesex (Greenford Weekly Post) Billed as The Chessmen

16 February 1965 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, north London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book) Billed as The Chessmen

20 February 1965 – New Georgian Club, Cowley, Middlesex (Greenford Weekly Post)

27 February 1965 – Victoria Ballroom, Cambridge (Cambridge News) Billed as The Chessmen

 

5 March 1965 – Ricky Tick, Guildford Civic Hall, Guildford, Surrey (Ricky Tick website: https://www.rickytick.com/Billed as The Chessmen

16 March 1965 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, north London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book) Billed as The Chessmen

27 March 1965 – El Partido, Lewisham, south east London with The Mankinde (need to find source)

Around this time, Johnny Almond joined on baritone sax and John Gummer moved to trumpet

18 April 1965 – Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with Cops ‘N’ Robbers (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

19 April 1965 – Victoria Ballroom, Cambridge (Cambridge News) Billed as The Chessmen

23 April 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

24 April 1965 – Twin Town Youth Ball, Lynx Club, Maxwell Park Youth Centre, Borehamwood, Herts (Simon Gee research)

 

1 May 1965 – New Georgian Club, Uxbridge, northwest London (Ruislip & Northwood Gazette)

8 May 1965 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band (Melody Maker)

15 May 1965 – Victoria Hotel, Basingstoke, Hampshire (Hampshire & Berkshire Gazette)

29 May 1965 – Corn Exchange, Cambridge with The Dyaks (Cambridge News)

30 May 1965 – Agincourt Ballroom, Camberley, Surrey (Aldershot News)

 

7 June 1965 – Redcar Mini Festival, Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with Long John Baldry & The Hoochie Coochie Men, Zoot Money & The Big Roll Band, The Crawdaddies (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

13 June 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

15 June 1965 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, north London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book) Billed as The Chessmen

 

11 July 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

25 July 1965 – Galaxy Club, Woburn Park Hotel, Addlestone, Surrey (Woking Herald)

27 July 1965 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, north London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book) Billed as The Chessmen

31 July 1965 – Milford R&B, Strutt Arms, Milford, Derbyshire (Derby Evening Telegraph)

6 August 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Putney, south west London with The Fetish Crowd (NME)

7 August 1965 – Bowes Lyon House, Stevenage, Herts with Soul 5 (Hertfordshire & Bedfordshire Express)

Around this time, Terry Martin and John Reed departed

Former London Beats members Peter Carney (bass) and John Carroll (Hammond organ) filled the vacant spots. Terry Edmunds also joined on lead guitar

30 August 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

30 August 1965 – Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with Long Joh Baldry, Rod Stewart, Julie Driscoll and Brian Auger Trinity, The Mike Cotton Sound and The Crawdaddies (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

14 October 1965 – Bowes Lyon House, Stevenage, Herts with The Jimmy Brown Sound (Hertfordshire & Bedfordshire Express)

16 October 1965 – Blue Moon, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (Gloucester Citizen)

23 October 1965 – Agincourt Ballroom, Camberley, Surrey (Aldershot News)

29 October 1965 – Penthouse Club, Bromley South, southeast London with The Penthouse Sound System (Melody Maker)

 

5 November 1965 – Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with The Artwoods, Chris Farlowe & The Thunderbirds and The Crawdaddies (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

14 November 1965 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

26 November 1965 – Hermitage Halls, Hitchin, Herts with Alan Wade & The Hawkers and The Rising Sons (Hertfordshire & Bedfordshire Express)

28 November 1965 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

Around this time, Johnny Almond left to join Zoot Money’s Big Roll Band and John Gummer reverted to baritone trumpet

4 December 1965 – Zambesi Club, Hounslow, west London (Middlesex Chronicle)

10 December 1965 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

16 December 1965 – Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with Ronnie Jones & The Blue Jays and Steampacket (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

18 December 1965 – The Zambesi, Hounslow, west London (Ruislip & Northwood Gazette)

24 December 1965 – King Mojo Club, Sheffield, South Yorkshire with Herbie Goins & The Night-Timers (Melody Maker)

27 December 1965 – Star Hotel, Croydon, south London (Chris Broom book: Rockin’ and Around Croydon)

1966

2 January 1966 – Ricky Tick, Guildford Civic Hall, Guildford, Surrey (Ricky Tick website: https://www.rickytick.com/Billed as The Chessmen

9 January 1966 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham (Down at the Boat book)

16 January 1966 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with Fontella Bass (Melody Maker)

22 January 1966 – Milford R&B, Strutt Arms, Milford, Derbyshire (Derby Evening Telegraph)

 

6 February 1966 – Hive Club, Wooden Bridge Hotel, Guildford, Surrey (Surrey Advertiser)

17 February 1966 – Burton Manor, Stafford, Staffordshire (Stafford Newsletter)

5 March 1966 – Ram Jam, Brixton, south London with The Loose Ends (Melody Maker)

5 March 1966 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with The Rockhouse Band (Melody Maker)

 

1 April 1966 – The Refectory, Golders Green, London (Melody Maker)

4 April 1966 – Woodhall Community Centre, Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire (Welwyn Times)

12 April 1966 – Ricky Tick, Borough Assembly Hall, Aylesbury, Bucks (website: http://aylesburymusictown.co.uk/)

 

6 May 1966 – Ricky Tick, Harvest Moon Club, Guildford, Surrey (Ricky Tick website: https://www.rickytick.com/Billed as The Chessmen

28 May 1966 – Toft’s, Folkestone, Kent (Folkestone, Hythe & District Herald)

29 May 1966 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham (Down at the Boat book)

 

24 June 1966 – Latin Quarter, Leicester with Five Minus One (Leicester Mercury)

 

2 July 1966 – New Spot, Gosport, Hampshire (Portsmouth News)

9 July 1966 – Bowes Lyon House, Stevenage, Hertfordshire with The Shevells (Welwyn Times)

16 July 1966 – The Dolphin, Marine Court, St Leonards, East Sussex with King Bees (Roger Bistow’s research at Dizzy Tiger Music website/Hastings and St Leonards Observer)

24 July 1966 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham (Down at the Boat book)

29 July 1966 – Latin Quarter, Leicester (Fabulous 208)

31 July 1966 – Central Hotel, Gillingham, Kent (Fabulous 208)

In late July Peter Carney left to join Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band and Liverpudlian Steve Lucas, who’d also worked with Bluesology, came in on bass briefly before Rick Eagles joined permanently

5 August 1966 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as The Chessmen

Eagles, who had played with west London band, The Legends, debuted at the Witchdoctor in Catford on 6 August. 

6 August 1966 – Witchdoctor, Catford, south east London (South East London Mercury/Fabulous 208)

6 August 1966 – Flamingo, Soho, Wardour Street, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as The Chessmen

7 August 1966 – Casino Ballroom, Leicester (Fabulous 208)

12 August 1966 – Beachcomber Club, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

14 August 1966 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as The Chessmen

18 August 1966 – Ricky Tick, Harpenden Public Hall, Harpenden, Hertfordshire (Poster) Billed as The Chessmen

Future Procol Harum keyboard player Matthew Fisher briefly stepped in for John Carroll in time for the gig below. Fisher’s most recent band was The Hi-Fi Sounds, who’d played at Butlin’s Holiday camp in Minehead, Somerset.

29 August 1966 – Redcar Jazz Club, Coatham Hotel, Redcar, North Yorkshire with Zoot Money & His Big Roll Band, John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers and The Crawdaddies (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book/Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

Fisher departed after this and briefly joined The Downliners Sect and John Carroll returned.

2 September 1966 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as The Chessmen

About this time, Lol Coxhill departed to join The Gass. John Gummer also left and former Mike Rabin Band/Rockhouse members Dave Coxhill (no relation to Lol) and Stan Sulzmann came in on saxophones. 

Record Mirror’s 10 September issue noted that Dave Coxhill had joined but no mention of Stan Sulzmann.

23 September 1966 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

23 September 1966 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as The Chessmen

24 September 1966 – Britannia Rowing Club, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

 

2 October 1966 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham (Down at the Boat book)

3 October 1966 – Aylesbury Social Club, Aylesbury, Bucks with Patterson’s People (Ric Eagles’ gig card)

8 October 1966 – Chelmsford Corn Exchange, Chelmsford, Essex with The Verdict (Essex Chronicle)

24 October 1966 – Agincourt Ballroom, Camberley, Surrey with The Voids (Aldershot News/Camberley News)

 

12 November 1966 – Club A Go Go, Newcastle upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear with The Elcort (website: http://www.readysteadygone.co.uk/club-agogo-newcastle-2/)

17 November 1966 – New Yorker Discotheque, Swindon, Wiltshire (Reading Evening Post) Says direct from the Marquee

19 November 1966 – Ricky Tick, Bridge House, Bracknell, Berkshire (Ricky Tick website: https://www.rickytick.com/)

During November, the band opened the Bag O’Nails in Kingley Street, Soho. 

17 December 1966 – Afan Lido, Port Talbot, Wales with The Cheatin’ Hearts (Port Talbot Guardian)

According to the Stage magazine, the band played the Bag O’Nails over the Christmas period with The Brian Auger Trinity and Ronnie Jones & The Blue Jays

1967

5 January 1967 – Golden Torch, Tunstall, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

7 January 1967 – Nite Owl, Leicester (Leicester Mercury)

22 January 1967 – Golden Torch, Tunstall, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

Later this month, John Carroll landed a job with The New Pirates after Rick Eagles told his old friend Nick Simper about the keyboard player. 

4 February 1967 – Roaring ‘60s, Leicester (Leicester Mercury) This was the club’s opening night

15 February 1967 – Waltham Forest Technical College and School of Art, Waltham Forest, London with The Washington DCs (Poster)

18 February 1967 – Manhole, Redhill, Surrey (Crawley Advertiser)

Soon after Rick Eagles departed and later played with The Good Earth, which later became Mungo Jerry 

Starting in early March, Tony Knight’s Chessmen started working with Jamaican singer Owen Gray who’d worked with The Krew in France during 1966.  Not all the shows below are billed as with Owen Gray but he was with the band until about early September  1967.

9 March 1967 – Roaring 20’s, Carnaby Street, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

11 March 1967 – Blue Moon, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (Gloucester Citizen)

11 March 1967 – Roaring 20’s, Carnaby Street, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

18 March 1967 – Gaiety Ballroom, Ramsey, Cambridgeshire with The Friction (Cambridgeshire Times)

19 March 1967 – Roaring 20’s, Carnaby Street, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

25 March 1967 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post) Billed as with Owen Gary

27 March 1967 – Clouds, Derby (Derby Evening Telegraph)

 

2 April 1967 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post) Billed as with Owen Gray

3 April 1967 – Marquee, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with The Herd (Tony Bacon’s book: London Live)

8 April 1967 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post) Billed as with Owen Gray

8 April 1967 – Britannia Rowing Club, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post) Billed as with Owen Gray

15 April 1967 – Blue Moon, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire (Gloucestershire Echo) Billed as with Owen Gray

29 April 1967 – The Thing-a-me-jig Club, Reading, Berkshire (Reading Evening Post)

6 May 1967 – Lion Hotel, Warrington, Cheshire with The Escorts and The Beechwoods (Warrington Guardian)

7 May 1967 – Carlton Club, Warrington, Cheshire (Warrington Guardian)

8 May 1967 – 100 Club, Oxford Street, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

20 May 1967 – The Embassy, Colchester, Essex with Mind Excursion (Essex County Standard)

21 May 1967 – Kirklevington Country Club, Kirklevington, North Yorkshire (Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

26 May 1967 – Stoke Hole Club, Stoke Hotel, Guildford, Surrey (Surrey Advertiser) Advert says they are an eight-piece

 

2 June 1967 – Clockwork Orange, Chester, Cheshire with The Raynes (Cheshire Observer) Billed as with Owen Gray

4 June 1967 – Hobmoor Carnaby Club, Yardley, West Midlands with The Monopoly and The Exception (Birmingham Evening Mail) Billed as with Owen Gray

In mid-June Terry Edmunds left to briefly work with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers but it only lasted a few weeks. Fred D’Albert joined on lead guitar. Around the same time, Stan Sulzmann left

17 June 1967 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Apex R&B All Stars and The Gods (website: www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

The group undertook some dates in Cornwall (late June) and played at the Piper Club in Viareggio, Italy (July).

Tenor sax player Terry Ede (ex-Jeff Elroy & The Blue Boys) remembers both and was a member during this time with Tony Knight, bass player Keith Tillman (ex-Stone’s Masonry), guitarist Fred D’Albert and Dave Coxhill. He says that Owen Gray was with them.

28 June 1967 – Princess Pavilion, Falmouth, Cornwall with Time, Soul & Motion (West Briton & Royal Cornish Gazette)

29 June 1967 – Blue Lagoon, Newquay, Cornwall with The Crestas (West Briton & Royal Cornish Gazette)

30 June-1 July 1967 – Winter Gardens Ballroom, Penzance, Cornwall with support (West Briton & Royal Cornish Gazette)

Photo: Fred D’Albert. Left to right: Terry Ede, Dave Coxhill (hidden), Owen Gray, Tony Brown (hidden), Keith Tillman and Fred D’Albert in Italy.
Photo: Terry Ede. Left to right: Terry Ede, Tony Brown (hidden) and Dave Coxhill in Italy.

Keith Tillman leaves after Italian dates and subsequently joins John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers after playing with Aynsley Dunbar. Alan Rowell from several East Anglian bands takes his place.

6 August 1967 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

12 August 1967 – The New All-Star Club, 9a Artillery Passage, east London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

14 August 1967 – Carlton Club, Warrington, Cheshire (Warrington Guardian)

19 August 1967 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker) Billed as with Owen Gray

 

9 September 1967 – 007 Sun Valley Club, Dalston, north London with Sir Dees Sound (Melody Maker)

In September, Tony Knight, Fred D’Albert, Alan Rowell and Dave Coxhill joined The Cat Soul Packet and worked with the group until November.

By early 1968, the following line-up performed as The Magicians who cut a lone single for MCA ‘Painting on Wood’ c/w ‘Slow Motion’

Dave Watkins – piano/vocals

Fred d’Albert – guitar

Terry Martin – bass

Tony Brown (aka Tony Knight) – drums/vocals

Huge thanks to David Else for his input

Copyright © Nick Warburton.  All Rights Reserved. No part of this article may be reproduced or transmitted in any from or by any means, without prior permission from the author.

Herbie Goins & The Night-Timers’ gigs 1965-1969

Welcome to another posting of a series of gig listings for 1960s bands. None of these lists is exhaustive and my idea is to add to them in the comments section below over time. They are here for future researchers to draw on.  I have also added a few interesting bits of information and will add images in time.

I’d like to encourage band members to get in touch to share memories, or for anyone to send corrections/clarifications to my email: Warchive@aol.com 

Equally important, if you attended any of the gigs below or played in the support band, please do leave your memories below in the comments section for future historians to use. If you know of any missing gigs, please add them too, if possible, with the sources.

HERBIE GOINS & THE NIGHT-TIMERS:

 Herbie Goins – lead vocals

John McLaughlin – lead guitar

Mick Eve – tenor saxophone

Harry Beckett – trumpet

Nigel Stanger – Hammond organ/saxophone

Dave Price – bass

Bill Stevens – drums

1965

23 March 1965 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, north London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book) This might have been before the link-up with The Night-Timers who were working with Ronnie Jones

 

21 April 1965 – Orford Cellar, Norwich, Norfolk (Eastern Evening News)

25 April 1965 – Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band (Melody Maker)

 

8 May 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/) Says straight from the Flamingo, Wardour Street, Soho, London

16 May 1965 – The Dolphin, Marine Court, St Leonards, East Sussex (Roger Bistow’s research at Dizzy Tiger Music website)

29 May 1965 – Corn Exchange, Chelmsford, Essex (Essex Chronicle)

 

2 June 1965 – Le Disque A Go Go, Bournemouth, Dorset (website: https://bournemouthbeatboom.wordpress.com/)

7 June 1965 – Cooks Ferry Inn, Edmonton, north London (Leyton, Leytonstone and Waltham Forest Guardian) Billed as The Night-timers

11 June 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Putney, southwest London with support (NME) Billed as The Night-timers with Herbie Goins

13 June 1965 – Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with Kim & The Kinetics (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

20 June 1965 – Agincourt Ballroom, Camberley, Surrey (Aldershot News)

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27 June 1965 – Galaxy Club, Woburn Park Hotel, Addlestone, Surrey (Woking Herald)

 

1 July 1965 – Bowes Lyon Youth Centre, Stevenage, Herts with The Bumps In The Night (Hertfordshire Express)

4 July 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

10 July 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Putney, southwest London with Gary L Thompson & The Sidewinders (NME)

23 July 1965 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

 

6 August 1965 – Birdcage, Kimbells Ballroom, Southsea, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

7 August 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Putney, southwest London with Group Survival (NME) Billed as The Night-timers with Herbie Goins

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8 August 1965 – Galaxy Club, Woburn Park Hotel, Addlestone, Surrey (Woking Herald)

28 August 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Putney, southwest London (NME) Billed as The Night-timers with Herbie Goins

Sometime in late August/early September 1965, Nigel Stanger returned to Newcastle upon Tyne and worked with Alan Price. Former member Dave Morse returned on Hammond organ

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4 September 1965 – Zambesi Club, Hounslow, west London (Middlesex Chronicle)

12 September 1965 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

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16 September 1965 – Ritz Club, Skewen, Wales with The Kingpins and The Iveys (Port Talbot Guardian)

17 September 1965 – Archer Hall, Billericay, Essex (Southend Standard & Essex Weekly Advertiser)

18 September 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Putney, southwest London (Melody Maker)

24 September 1965 – Orford Cellar, Norwich, Norfolk (Eastern Evening News)

 

8 October 1965 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

13 October 1965 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, west London with The Rick ‘N’ Beckers (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

16 October 1965 – Corn Exchange, Chelmsford, Essex with Loomers Ltd (Essex Chronicle)

24 October 1965 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

 

3 November 1965 – Farnbrough Town Hall, Farnborough, Hampshire (Aldershot News)

12 November 1965 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

13 November 1965 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

14 November 1965 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, west London with The Worrying Kind (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

21 November 1965 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

28 November 1965 – Ricky Ticky, Plaza, Guildford, Surrey (David Else’s research)

 

5 December 1965 – Agincourt Ballroom, Camberley, Surrey (Aldershot News)

9 December 1965 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

11 December 1965 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

15 December 1965 – Le Disque A Go Go, Bournemouth, Dorset (website: https://bournemouthbeatboom.wordpress.com/)

24 December 1965 – King Mojo Club, Sheffield, South Yorkshire with Tony Knight’s Chessmen (Melody Maker)

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26 December 1965 – Pontiac, Zeeta House, Pontiac, southwest London (Melody Maker)

1966

1 January 1966 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

5 January 1966 – Farnborough Town Hall, Farnborough, Hampshire (Aldershot News)

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8 January 1966 – House of Aden, Witham Hall, Essex with Elkie Brooks, The Marionettes and Ray Ford and The Statesiders (Essex County Standard)

20 January 1966 – Carousel Club, 1 Camp Road, Farnborough, Hampshire (Aldershot News/Camberley News)

22 January 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, London (Melody Maker)

30 January 1966 – King Mojo, Sheffield, South Yorkshire (The Star)

 

4 February 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, London (Melody Maker)

5 February 1966 – Winter Gardens, Banbury, Oxfordshire with Elkie Brooks, The Marionettes and Phase II (Brackley Advertiser) Is this possible with the gig below?

5 February 1966 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

13 February 1966 – Ricky Ticky, Plaza, Guildford, Surrey (David Else’s research)

18 February 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, London with Dakota Station (Melody Maker)

19 February 1966 – King Mojo, Sheffield, South Yorkshire with Jimmy James & The Vagabonds and The Blueberries (The Star)

26 February 1966 – New All-Star Club, 9a Artillery Passage, E1, London (Melody Maker)

Dave Morse departed on the eve of a Swiss tour and former member Nigel Stanger recommended his friend Mike Carr

March 1966 – Hazyland Club, Hazy Osterveld, Zurich, Switzerland (one month) (Mike Carr recollections)

19 March 1966 – Mod Place, Victoria Rooms, Clifton, Bristol with Elkie Brooks, The Marionettes and The Reasons (Western Scene) Is this possible with Swiss dates above

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1 April 1966 – New All-Star Club, 9a Artillery Passage, E1, London with Screamin’ Jay Hawkins (Melody Maker)

4 April 1966 – Penthouse, Birmingham, West Midlands with Screamin’ Jay Hawkins (Birmingham Evening Mail)

9 April 1966 – Jigsaw, Manchester with Screamin’ Jay Hawkins and Graham Bond Organisation (Manchester Evening News & Chronicle)

10 April 1966 – Plaza Ballroom, Handsworth West Midlands with Screamin’ Jay Hawkins (Birmingham Evening Mail)

15 April 1966 – Dungeon Club, Nottingham with Screamin’ Jay Hawkins (website: https://dungeonmods.wordpress.com/)

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16 April 1966 – Carousel Club, 1 Camp Road, Farnbrough, Hampshire with Screaming J Hawkins (Aldershot News/Camberley News)

18 April 1966 – Atlanta Ballroom, Woking, Surrey with support (Aldershot News/Camberley News)

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23 April 1966 – Starlight Ballroom, Boston Gliderdrome, Boston, Lincolnshire with Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, The Plain & Fancy and The Tykes (Lincolnshire Standard)

30 April 1966 – Club A Go Go, Newcastle upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear with The Score (website: http://www.readysteadygone.co.uk/club-agogo-newcastle-2/)

 

2 May 1966 – Esquire, Sheffield, South Yorkshire (The Star)

3 May 1966 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

4 May 1966 – Club A Go Go, Newcastle upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear with The Score (website: http://www.readysteadygone.co.uk/club-agogo-newcastle-2/)

8 May 1966 – Blue Moon, Hayes, Middlesex (Melody Maker)

15 May 1966 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, London with The Seventh Sun (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

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27 May 1966 – Carousel Club, 1 Camp Road, Farnbrough, Hampshire (Aldershot News/Camberley News) David Else also has the band playing at the Camberley Ricky Tick at the Cambridge Hotel on this date with The Blues Syndicate

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28 May 1966 – New All-Star Club, 9a Artillery Passage, E1, London (Melody Maker)

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Around late May/early June John McLaughlin left and first Mick Barker and then John Smith came in on guitar (Ed: would welcome any insights from readers)

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4 June 1966 – Zambesi, Hounslow, west London (Melody Maker)

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10 June 1966 – Carousel Club, 1 Camp Road, Farnborough, Hampshire (Aldershot News/Camberley News)

12 June 1966 – Toft’s, Folkestone, Kent (Folkestone, Hythe & District Herald)

15 June 1966 – Orford Cellar, Norwich (Eastern Evening News)

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17 June 1966 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London with Mood Indigo (Melody Maker)

19 June 1966 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham (Down at the Boat book)

24 June 1966 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with support (website: www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

29 June 1966 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, London with Nocturnal (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

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2 July 1966 – Bowes Lyon House, Stevenage, Hertfordshire (Welwyn Times)

11 July 1966 – Majestic, Reading, Berkshire (Bracknell News)

July/August 1966 – Papagayos, St-Tropez, France with Steampacket (Mike Carr recollections)

 

7 September 1966 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, London with The Charge (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

9 September 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, London (Melody Maker)

10 September 1966 – Toft’s, Folkestone, Kent (Folkestone, Hythe & District Herald/Melody Maker)

11 September 1966 – Beachcomber, Nottingham with The Jimmy Brown Sound (Nottingham Evening Post)

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12 September 1966 – Queens Ballroom, Wolverhampton, West Midlands (Birmingham Evening Mail/Express & Star)

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14 September 1966 – Scene Club, Cardiff, Wales (Western Daily Press)

19 September 1966 – Locarno Ballroom, Bristol (Evening Post)

19 September 1966 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

25 September 1966 – Black Prince Hotel, Bexley, southeast London (South East London Mercury)

25 September 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker)

29 September 1966 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, west London (London Life) This may be 30 September

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30 September 1966 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Washington DCs (website: www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

Sometime in early October, Speedy Acquaye joined on congas from Georgie Fame’s Blue Flames, having appeared on the sessions for “Number One in Your Heart” earlier in the year

1 October 1966 – Beachcomber, Nottingham with Broodly-Hoo (Nottingham Evening Post)

2 October 1966 – Central R&B Club, Central Hotel, Gillingham, Kent (Chatham, Rochester & Gillingham News)

8 October 1966 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

15 October 1966 – The New All-Star Club, 9a Artillery Passage, E1, London (Melody Maker)

16 October 1966 – Dereham Tavern Club, Dereham, Norfolk with The Sullivan James (North Norfolk News)

22 October 1966 – The Location, Woolwich, southeast London with The Images (Melody Maker)

23 October 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker)

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26 October 1966 – Elbow Room, Aston, West Midlands (Birmingham Evening Mail)

27 October 1966 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

28 October 1966 – El Grotto, Ilford, east London (Redbridge & Ilford Recorder)

29 October 1966 – Plebians, Halifax, West Yorkshire (Halifax Evening Courier & Guardian)

31 October 1966 – The Village, Cleethorpes, North East Lincolnshire (Grimsby Evening Telegraph)

 

2 November 1966 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, west London with The Coloured Raisins (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

5 November 1966 – The Union, Manchester University with Cock-A-Hoops and All Soul Band (Manchester Evening News and Chronicle)

9 November 1966 – Harpenden Town Hall, Harpenden, Hertfordshire (Melody Maker)

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11 November 1966 – Top Spot, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire with The Blues Generation (Gloucester Citizen)

13 November 1966 – Beachcomber Club, Nottingham with Sonny Childe & The TNT (Nottingham Evening Post)

14 November 1966 – Stafford College of Art, Stafford, Staffordshire with Powerhouse (Express & Star)

17 November 1966 – Blaises, Queen’s Gate, Kensington (Tatler)

18 November 1966 – South Bank Jazz Club, Grimsby, Humberside (Grimsby Evening Telegraph)

24 November 1966 – Concorde, Southampton, Hampshire (Southern Evening Echo)

27 November 1966 – Dereham Tavern Club, Dereham, Norfolk with The Marvin Lois Enterprise (North Norfolk News)

 

2 December 1966 – Dancing Slipper Ballroom, West Bridgeford, Nottingham with The Tribe (Nottingham Evening Post)

3 December 1966 – Burlesque, Leicester (Leicester Mercury)

3 December 1966 – St George’s Ballroom, Hinckley, Leicestershire (Nuneaton Evening Tribune)

4 December 1966 – Douglas House, Lancaster Gate, west London with Freddie Mack & The Mack Sound (Melody Maker)

4 December 1966 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker)

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9 December 1966 – Carousel Club, Farnborough, Hampshire (Camberley News)

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10 December 1966 – Wimbledon Palais, Wimbledon, southwest London with The Merseybeats (Balham & Tooting News and Mercury)

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11 December 1966 – Beau Brummel Club, Alvaston Hall Hotel, Nantwich, Cheshire with Phil Ryan & The Scorpions (Chester Chronicle)

14 December 1966 – Stourbridge Town Hall, Stourbridge, West Midlands with The Satin Dolls (Poster)

15 December 1966 – London College of Fashion, John Princess Street, London (Melody Maker)

16 December 1966 – Wimbledon Palais, southwest Wimbledon, London (Mitcham News & Mercury)

18 December 1966 – Starlite, Greenford, northwest London (Melody Maker)

23 December 1966 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London with The Satin Dolls and The Situation (Melody Maker)

29 December 1966 – Speakeasy, central London (Disc & Music Echo)

30 December 1966 – Chislehurst Caves, Chislehurst, southeast London (Melody Maker)

31 December 1966 – Sibyllas, Swallow Street, central London (Disc & Music Echo)

1967

1 January 1967 – Beachcomber Club, Nottingham with The Satin Dolls (Nottingham Evening Post)

3 January 1967 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

5 January 1967 – Locarno Ballroom, Coventry, West Midlands with The Silverstone Set (Coventry Evening Telegraph)

6 January 1967 – Marquee, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with Wynder K Frog (Tony Bacon’s book: London Live)

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7 January 1967 – Roundhouse, Chalk Farm, London with Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers, The Creation, The Artwoods and St Louis Union (Melody Maker)

11 January 1967 – Eel Pie Island, Twickenham, west London with John Bryan Fraternity (website: http://eelpieislandmusic.com/eel-pie-island-roll-call)

13 January 1967 – California Ballroom, Dunstable, Bedfordshire with The Satin Dolls and The All Night Workers (website: www.california-ballroom.info/gigs/)

15 January 1967 – Central R&B Club, Central Hotel, Gillingham, Kent with Satin Dolls (Chatham, Rochester & Gillingham News)

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20 January 1967 – Mod Ball, Pavilion Ballroom, Weymouth, Dorset with Teak and Smokey and The Nite People (Western Gazette)

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21 January 1967 – Starlight Room, Boston Gliderdrome, Boston, Lincolnshire with The Satin Dolls, Timebox with Richard Henry, Triads and Ray Bones (Spalding Standard)

26 January 1967 – Marquee, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with Jimmy Cliff & The Shakedown Sound (Tony Bacon’s book: London Live)

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27 January 1967 – Top Spot Ballroom, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire with The Knak (Gloucester Citizen)

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28 January 1967 – Clouds, Derby (Derby Evening Telegraph)

28 January 1967 – Nite Owl, Leicester (Leicester Mercury)

 

1 February 1967 – Elbow Room, Aston, West Midlands (Fabulous 208)

2 February 1967 – Bowes-Lyon-House, Stevenage, West Midlands (Fabulous 208)

4 February 1967 – Upper Cut, Forest Gate, east London with The Avalons and The Mack Sound (Melody Maker)

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5 February 1967 – Kirklevington Country Club, Kirklevington, North Yorkshire (Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

6 February 1967 – Queen’s Ballroom, Wolverhampton, West Midlands (Express & Star)

7-8 February 1967 – Sibyllas, Swallow Street, central London (Fabulous 208)

9 February 1967 – Marquee, Wardour Street, Soho, central London with The Satin Dolls and The In Crowd (Tony Bacon’s book: London Live)

10 February 1967 – Hereford College (presumably Hereford but could be Oxford college) (Fabulous 208) They may have played the Stage Club on this date too (Cherwell)

11 February 1967 – Durham University, Durham, County Durham (Fabulous 208)

14 February 1967 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, west London (Fabulous 208)

14 February 1967 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, north London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book)

16 February 1967 – Cadenas Club, Stoke Hotel, Guildford with The Jeremiah Thing (David Else’s research)

17 February 1967 – Ricky Tick, Hounslow, West London (David Else’s research)

18 February 1967 – Ricky Tick, Thames Hotel, Windsor, Berkshire (David Else’s research)

19 February 1967 – Saville Theatre, Shaftsbury Avenue, London with Chuck Berry and The Canadians (Fabulous 208)

21 February 1967 – Pavilion, Bournemouth Colleges Student’s Union, Landsdowne, Dorset with The Palmer James Group (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

23 February 1967– Marquee, Wardour Street, Soho, London with The In Crowd (Tony Bacon’s book: London Live)

24 February 1967 – Sophia Gardens, Cardiff, Wales with The Yardbirds (Fabulous 208)

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25 February 1967 – Matlock Bath Pavilion, Matlock, Derbyshire with John L Watson and The Web (Derby Evening Telegraph)

According to the Guardian Journal’s 18 March issue, page 5, Mike Carr departed in early March. His replacement was Jamaican musician Junior Kerr.

Kerr came in via backing singers and dancers Cassie and Candy (aka The Satin Dolls) who were part of the Ready Steady Go dancing troupe. They joined around in late 1966 (Ed: would welcome any reader insights)

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4 March 1967 – Royal Lido, Prestatyn, Clwyd, Wales with The Raynes (Rhyl & Prestayn Gazette)

16 March 1967 – Locarno, Derby (Fabulous 208)

17 March 1967 – Queen’s Rink, West Hartlepool, County Durham (Fabulous 208)

18 March 1967 – Sheffield University, Sheffield, South Yorkshire (Fabulous 208)

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19 March 1967 – Cosmo Ballroom, Carlisle, Cumbria with 22nd Street People (Cumberland News/Fabulous 208)

22 March 1967 – College of Tech, Nottingham with Unit 4 Plus 2 (Fabulous 208)

23 March 1967 – Palace Hotel, Southport, Lancashire (Fabulous 208)

24 March 1967 – Top Ten, Manchester with Candy Choir (Manchester Evening News & Chronicle)

24 March 1967 – Bluesville, Manor House, London (Melody Maker)

25 March 1967 – Gaiety Ballroom, Ramsey, Cambridgeshire with The Legay (Cambridgeshire Times)

26 March 1967 – Belle Vue, Greater Manchester (Fabulous 208)

9 April 1967 – Ram Jam, Brixton, south London (Melody Maker)

14 April 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London (Melody Maker)

16 April 1967 – Kirklevington Country Club, Kirklevington, North Yorkshire (Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

18 April 1967 – Ritz, Bournemouth, Dorset with The Bossmen (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

23 April 1967 – Nottingham Boat Club, Nottingham (Down at the Boat book)

26 April 1967 – Bromel Club, Bromley Court Hotel, Bromley, Kent (Melody Maker)

28 April 1967 – Steering Wheel Club, Dorchester, Dorset with Adge Cutler & The Wurzels and The Gordon Riots (Western Gazette)

29 April 1967 – Nite Owl, Leicester with The Executive (Melody Maker)

30 April 1967 – Central R&B Club, Central Hotel, Gillingham, Kent with Satin Dolls (Chatham, Rochester & Gillingham News)

Sometime around this period, Linda Lewis also sang with the group briefly having worked with The Q-Set in late 1966. She didn’t stay long and cut a solo single for Polydor that summer. She would reunite though with Kerr soon after in White Rabbit

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6 May 1967 ­– Shoreline Club, Bognor Regis, West Sussex with The In Crowd (Dave Allen research)

9 May 1967 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, London with The Satin Dolls (Melody Maker)

12 May 1967 – Drokiweeny, Manchester with The Satin Dolls (Manchester Evening News and Chronicle)

12 May 1967 – Tabernacle, Stockport, Greater Manchester with The Satin Dolls (Manchester Evening News and Chronicle)

12 May 1967 – Mr Smith’s, Manchester with The Satin Dolls (Manchester Evening News and Chronicle)

16 May 1967 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, London with The Web (Melody Maker)

23 May 1967 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, London (Melody Maker)

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27 May 1967 – St George’s Ballroom, Hinckley, Leicestershire (Nuneaton Evening Tribune)

27 May 1967 – Klooks Kleek, West Hampstead, London (Geoff Williams’ research: Decca Studios and Klooks Kleek book)

29 May 1967 – Beachcomber, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post) Is this possible with the gig below?

29 May 1967 – Supreme Eastern Esplanade, Ramsgate, Kent with The Satin Dolls and Len Marshall Sound (Melody Maker/East Kent Times & Mail)

30 May 1967 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, London (Melody Maker/Record Mirror)

 

2 June 1967 – Upper Cut, Forest Gate, east London with The Satin Dolls (Melody Maker)

This large gap in June suggests they may have been overseas

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30 June 1967 – Koo Koo Byrd, Cardiff, Wales (Glamorgan County Times)

 

1 July 1967 – Supreme Eastern Esplanade, Ramsgate, Kent (East Kent Times & Mail)

8 July 1967 – Birdcage, Eastney, Hampshire (Dave Allen research)

10 July 1967 – Queen’s Ballroom, Wolverhampton, West Midlands (Express & Star)

29 July 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, London with The Fraternity and The Army (Melody Maker)

I would welcome any further insights from readers but I believe that in late July/early August, the group headed to Italy for a short tour. John Smith and Bill Stevens left on the eve of the tour and former Pack/Flowers of Wisdom members Andy Rickell and Terry Stannard joined. Stannard had recently worked with Freddie Mack.

The tour was a disaster and all of the equipment was stolen. Most of the group returned home and Junior Kerr, Andy Rickell and Terry Stannard formed White Rabbit with former member Linda Lewis

A new formation was formed on Goins’ return:

Herbie Goins – lead vocals

Alan Roskams – guitar (ex-Gass)

Mick Eve – tenor saxophone

Harry Beckett – trumpet

Speedy Acquaye – congas

John Carroll – Hammond organ

Dave Price – bass

Ian Hague – drums (ex-Chris Farlowe & The Thunderbirds/The Nice)

+ Satin Dolls backing singers/dancers Cassie and Candy 

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19 August 1967 – Wellington Club, Dereham, Norfolk with The Midnight Times (North Norfolk News)

20 August 1967 – Beachcomber, Nottingham with Satin Dolls (Nottingham Evening Post)

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25 August 1967 – Steering Wheel, Dorchester, Dorset with The Cellar Rats (Dorset Evening Echo)

26 August 1967 – Floral Hall, Southport, Lancashire with The Maraccas (Manchester Evening News and Chronicle/Formby Times)

27 August 1967 – Redcar Jazz Club, Redcar, North Yorkshire with The Bluecaps (Dennis Weller, Chris Scott Wilson and Graham Lowe’s book)

30 August 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, London (Melody Maker)

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2 September 1967 – St George’s Ballroom, Hinckley, Leicestershire with Mike Stuart’s Span (Nuneaton Evening Tribune)

3 September 1967 – Starlite, Greenford, northwest London (Melody Maker)

6 September 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London (Melody Maker)

8 September 1967 – 5D, Leicester with The Worrying Kynde (Leicester Mercury)

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9 September 1967 – Pink Flamingo, Soho, central London with The Paper Blitz Tissue and Geranium Pond (Melody Maker)

10 September 1967 – Central R&B Club, Central Hotel, Gillingham, Kent (Chatham, Rochester & Gillingham News)

11 September 1967 – Ritz, Bournemouth, Dorset (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

12 September 1967 – Blaises, Imperial Hotel, Queen’s Gate, west London (Melody Maker)

13 September 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London (Melody Maker)

20 September 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London (Melody Maker)

22 September 1967 – 5D, Leicester with The Wild Flowers (Leicester Mercury)

27 September 1967 – Tiles, Oxford Street, central London (Melody Maker)

30 September 1967 – Glastonbury Town Hall, Glastonbury, Somerset with The Safety Catch (Somerset County Gazette)

 

3 October 1967 – Bournemouth Pavilion, Bournemouth, Dorset with Granny’s Intentions and The Palmer James Group (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

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9 October 1967 – Top Rank, Cardiff, Wales with The Searchers, Lucas with The Mike Cotton Sound and The Zombies (South Wales Echo)

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15 October 1967 – Cosmopolitan, Carlisle, Cumbria with Tamla Express (Cumberland News)

20 October 1967 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker)

21 October 1967 – Northwich Memorial Hall, Northwich, Cheshire (Crewe Chronicle)

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22 October 1967 – Carlton Club, Warrington, Cheshire (Warrington Guardian)

29 October 1967 – South Bank Jazz Club, Grimsby, Humberside (Grimsby Evening Telegraph)

This large gap in November suggests they may have been overseas

2 December 1967 – Pearce Hall, Maidenhead, Berkshire with Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Titch and The Echoes (Bucks Free Press)

3 December 1967 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

8 December 1967 – Students’ Union, University of East Anglia, Norwich, Norfolk with Jimmy James & The Vagabonds and Precious Few (Eastern Evening News)

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9 December 1967 – Upper Cut, Forest Gate, east London with Ferris Wheel and Carl Douglas & The Big Stampede (Melody Maker)

12 December 1967 – New Century Hall, Manchester with Kibbus (Manchester Evening News & Chronicle)

14 December 1967 – Student’s Union, University of East Anglia, Norwich with Jimmy James & The Vagabonds and The Reasons (Eastern Evening News)

25 December 1967 – Cue Club, Paddington, central London (Melody Maker) Guest with The Tonicks, Ronnie Jones, Owen Grey and The Youth

26 December 1967 – Locarno Ballroom, Portsmouth, Hampshire (Portsmouth News)

1968

This large gap in January suggests they may have been overseas

4 February 1968 – Wooden Bridge Hotel, Guildford, Surrey with The Strange Brew (Surrey Advertiser)

18 February 1968 – New Regis Club, Bognor Regis, West Sussex (Brighton Evening Argus)

23 February 1968 – Shades, Sheffield, South Yorkshire (Sheffield Star)

 

1 March 1968 – Hotel Leofric, Coventry, West Midlands with Scarlet Religion (Coventry Evening Telegraph)

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2 March 1968 – Sheffield University Student’s Union, Sheffield, South Yorkshire (Sheffield Star)

8 March 1968 – Club A Go Go, Newcastle upon Tyne, Tyne and Wear (website: http://www.readysteadygone.co.uk/club-agogo-newcastle-2/)

10 March 1968 – The Place, Hanley, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

18 March 1968 – Park Hall Hotel, Goldthorn Park, Wolverhampton, West Midlands with Time and Mr Showbiz (Express & Star)

25 March 1968 – Cosmopolitan, Carlisle, Cumbria (Cumberland News)

29 March 1968 – Poole College Rag, Poole College Main Hall, Poole, Dorset with The Nite People (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

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30 March 1968 – Ewell College, Ewell, Surrey with Robert Plant & The Band of Joy (Melody Maker)

 

1 April 1968 – Staffordshire Yeoman, Staffordshire (Evening Sentinel)

John Carroll left about this time to join The Flowerpot Men’s backing band. Former member Junior Kerr may have briefly returned as footage from French TV show Bouton Rouge dated 4 April reveals; however, this may have been a recording from the previous year. In the first week of April 1968, Kerr played with his new band Junior’s Conquests

Eddie Thornton, who’d worked with Georgie Fame (and more recently The Amboy Dukes) also joined in time for the French tour on trumpet, taking over from Harry Beckett

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10 April 1968 – Cellar Discotheque, Hartlepool (Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

13 April 1968 – St George’s Ballroom, Hinckley, Leicestershire (Nuneaton Evening Tribune)

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15 April 1968 – The Shrubbery Hotel, Ilminister, Somerset (Somerset County Gazette)

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19 April 1968 – Scene, Cambridge YMCA, Cambridge (Cambridge News)

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20 April 1968 – Tin Hat, Kettering, Northamptonshire with Howling Robin (Northamptonshire Evening Telegraph)

21 April 1968 – Le Metro, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

26 April 1968 – Cue Club, Paddington (Melody Maker)

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27 April 1968 – Ettington Park Hotel, Alderminster, near Stratford, Warwickshire (Birmingham Evening Mail) Could this have been the date below or did they play again a few weeks later?

29 April 1968 – Carlton Club, Warrington, Cheshire (Warrington Guardian)

 

4 May 1968 – Wolverhampton College of Technology, Wolverhampton, West Midlands with Soul Seekers (Express & Star)

11 May 1968 – Ettington Park Hotel, Alderminster, Warwickshire (Stratford upon Avon Herald)

12 May 1968 – Excel Blue Angel, Middlesbrough (Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

19 May 1968 – Black Prince Hotel, Bexley, London (Poster)

23 May 1968 – Liberal Hall, Yeovil, Somerset with The Klick (Western Gazette)

31 May 1968 – Pantiles, Bagshot, Surrey (Melody Maker)

 

6 June 1968 – James Finegan Hall, Eston, Middlesbrough with Rivers Invitation and The Tramline (Middlesbrough Evening Gazette)

8 June 1968 – Mistrale Club, Beckenham Junction, London with The Shiralee (Coulson & Purley Advertiser)

16 June 1968 – Black Prince Hotel, Bexley, London with The Satin Dolls (Poster)

23 June 1968 – Cosmopolitan, Carlisle, Cumbria with Junco Partners (Cumberland News)

 

31 August 1968 – Civic Hall, Guildford, Surrey with The Strange Brew (Surrey Advertiser)

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2 September 1968 – Top Spot, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire with Lot 39 with Mel Taylor (Gloucester Citizen)

Around September 1968, Dave Price and Alan Roskams left.

Would welcome insights from readers but I think a new formation featured the following:

Herbie Goins – lead vocals

Kelvin Bullen – lead guitar (ex-Joe E Young & The Tonicks)

Hugh Bullen – bass (ex-Joe E Young & The Tonicks)

Mick Eve – tenor saxophone

Eddie Thornton – trumpet

Speedy Acquaye – congas

Ian Hague – drums

+ Satin Dolls backing singers/dancers Cassie and Candy

Photo from Paul Kane

5 September 1968 – Speakeasy at Blaises, London (Poster from Paul Kane)

6 September 1968 – Pavilion Ballroom, Bournemouth, Dorset (Bournemouth Evening Echo)

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7 September 1968 – Alex Disco, Salisbury, Wiltshire (Salisbury Journal/Western Gazette)

20 September 1968 – CLCE Scraptoft, Leicester with The Shevelles and The Decoys (Leicester Mercury)

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21 September 1968 – Stage Club, Oxford (Oxford Mail)

 

7 October 1968 – Quaintways, Chester, Cheshire with Perfumed Garden, The Hands and Wall City Jazzmen (website: www.45worlds.com/live)

13 October 1968 – El Grotto, Ilford, east London (Redbridge & Ilford Recorder)

19 October 1968 – Students Union UEA, Norwich, Norfolk with Bumbly Hum (Eastern Evening News)

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3 November 1968 – Carlton Club, Warrington, Cheshire (Warrington Guardian)

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7 December 1968 – Stage Club, Oxford (Oxford Mail)

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10 December 1968 – King’s College, Strand, London with The Nice and The Circus (Melody Maker)

14 December 1968 – Mid-Herts College, Welwyn Garden City, Herts with The Herbal Remedy (Welwyn and Hatfield Advertiser)

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18 December 1968 – Candlelight, Scarborough, North Yorkshire with The Satin Dolls and Free (Scarborough Evening News)

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21 December 1968 – The Catacombs, Wolverhampton, West Midlands (Express & Star)

1969

Sometime in early 1969, Ian Hague left to join J J Jackson’s backing band

21 February 1969 – Cue Club, Paddington, London (Melody Maker)

23 February 1969 – Pantiles, Bagshot, Surrey (Melody Maker)

 

1 March 1969 – Cue Club, Paddington, London (Melody Maker)

30 March 1969 – Carlton Club, Warrington, Cheshire (Warrington Guardian)

 

13 April 1969 – Blaises, London (Hounslow Post)

27 April 1969 – Le Metro, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

 

2 May 1969 – Lyceum Ballroom, Strand, London with Alan Bown, Spooky Tooth, Jon Hiseman’s Colosseum and Portrait (Melody Maker)

3 May 1969 – New Union Rowing Club, Nottingham (Nottingham Evening Post)

24 May 1969 – Farnborough Technical College Students’ Union, Farnborough, Hampshire (Aldershot News)

 

14 June 1969 – El Grotto, Ilford, east London (Redbridge & Ilford Recorder)

 

28 July 1969 – Soul Club, Plaza Ballroom, Newsbury, Berkshire with Simon K & The Meantimers (Reading Evening Post)

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28 September 1969 – Rebecca’s, Birmingham (Birmingham Evening Mail)

Soon after the above gig, the band landed a part-time residency in Rome, Italy

I would welcome any insights from readers on what happened next with the band’s formation

I’d like to thank David Else for generously sharing his own history on the band and helping to cross check timelines and facts. Also, thanks to Mick Eve for his insights.

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Flowerpot Men

This is the start of a short timeline covering the career of The Flowerpot Men, famous for the UK hit “Let’s Go To San Francisco”.

I’d like to thank Miguel Terol for helping to piece together the following timeline. I would welcome any input from anyone who can add or correct information below. The following sources were also very useful:

http://forgottenbands.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/next-band_5259.html

http://www.nicksimper.com/nicks_story3.htm#Chap15

 

Neil Landon – lead vocals

Pete Nelson – lead vocals

Tony Burrows – lead vocals

Robin Shaw – lead vocals

Neil Landon and Pete Nelson replace John Carter and Ken Lewis who sang on the single, ‘Let’s Go To San Francisco’.

Ged Peck – lead guitar (ex-Billie Davis & Quality)

+ Nick Simper – bass (ex-Billie Davis & Quality)

+ Billy Davidson – keyboards (ex-Freddie Mack & The Mack Sound)

+ Carlo Little – drums (ex-Billie Davis & Quality)

 

Notable gigs (most sourced from Melody Maker):

22 September 1967 –  Broken Wheel, Retford (Derbyshire Times/Retford Times)

29 September 1967 – Floral Hall, Southport, Lancashire

Tour with Traffic, Tomorrow, Art, The Mindbenders and Vanilla Fudge:

1 October 1967 – Mr Smiths, Manchester

4 October 1967 – Finsbury Park Astoria, Finsbury Park, London

6 October 1967 – Rugby Benn Memorial Hall, Rugby, Warwickshire

6 October 1967 – ABC, Chesterfield, Derbyshire

7 October 1967 – City Hall, Newcastle upon Tyne

8 October 1967 – Empire, Liverpool

10 October 1967 – ABC Croydon, Surrey

11 October 1967 – Birmingham Town Hall, Birmingham

12 October 1967 – Liberal Hall, Yeovil, Somerset (Western Gazette)

13 October 1967 – Colston Hall, Bristol

14 October 1967 – Gaumont, Wolverhampton

15 October 1967 – De Montfort Hall, Leicester

17 October 1967 – Gaumont, Ipswich, Suffolk

25 October 1967 – King’s Hall, Derby (needs confirmation)

28 October 1967 – St George’s Ballroom, Hinckley

 

4 November 1967 – Imperial Ballroom, Nelson, Lancashire

14 November 1967 – King’s Hall, Derby (needs confirmation)

15 November 1967 – Locarno, Stevenage

19 November 1967 – Saville Theatre, London with The Bee Gees and The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band

20 November 1967 – Stokley S&S Club

25 November 1967 – German TV Beat Club (most likely broadcast date)

NME announces in its 18 November issue that The Flowerpot Men have formed a four-piece backing group called The Sundial. The magazine reports that the group performs at the following venues:

November – Flowerpot Club, Birmingham (Saturday)

26 November 1967 – Week’s cabaret split between Latino, South Shields and Wetherall’s, Sunderland

 

The following gigs are from Melody Maker:

8 December 1967 – California Ballroom, Dunstable

9 December 1967 – Nottingham University

12 December 1967 – Keele University

16 December 1967 – St George Ballroom, Hinckley

23 December 1967 – Civic Hall, Nantwich, Cheshire with Sun Dial and Sound Society

30 December 1967 – German TV Beat Club

18 January 1968 – Whitcombe Club, Brockworth, Gloucestershire with Paper Blitz Tissue

 

Billy Davidson is ill and various keyboard players fill in, possibly John Carroll 

+ Jon Lord – keyboards (ex-Artwoods)

3 February 1968 – California Ballroom, Dunstable

24 February 1968:  Nick Simper and Jon Lord leave for Roundabout on this date

 + Tex Makins – bass

+ John Carroll – keyboards

24-30 March 1968 – La Dolce Vita, Birmingham

Early May 1968:

Tex Makins and John Carroll both leave. Carroll goes to Germany to play club in Essen for three months. Makins will reunite with Peck and Little shortly

+ Gordon Haskell – bass (ex-Fleur De Lyes)

12 May 1968 – NME awards (one of Haskell’s first shows)

12 May 1968 – Hatchetts Playground, Piccadilly, London

18 May 1968 – California Ballroom, Dunstable with O’Hara’s Playboys

Circa mid-July 1968:

Gordon Haskell leaves to join Cupid’s Inspiration

 + Tex Makins returns 

11 July 1968 – Blue Lagoon, Newquay, Cornwall with Bystanders and Sam’s Brothers Band

Circa late July/early August 1968:

Ged Peck, Tex Makins and Carlo Little join David Garrick’s band in Switzerland

+ Mick Stewart – lead guitar (ex-James Royal Set)

Also another drummer and bass player

6-10 August 1968 – Excel, Middlesbrough

17 August 1968 – Baston Community Association, The Marquee, Baston Playing Fields, Baston, Norfolk with The Iveys and Muffin Bank

Circa late August 1968:

+ Carlo Little rejoins on drums after David Garrick show

30 September 1968 – Club Cavendish, Birmingham (play for a week?)

Circa early October 1968:

Mick Stewart leaves to rejoin James Royal Set. The bass player leaves too

+ Robin Box – lead guitar

+ Ricky Wolff – keyboards, flute and sax

+ Tony Hall – saxophone

+ Gordon Haskell – bass rejoins from Cupid’s Inspiration

8 March 1969 – Grand Hall, Kilmarnock, Scotland with Ambrose Slade

 

22 June 1969 – El Grotto, Ilford, east London (Redbridge & Ilford Recorder)

Many thanks to John Carroll and Gordon Haskell for providing information

GARAGE HANGOVER WOULD WELCOME ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. PLEASE LEAVE COMMENTS BELOW

 

The London Beats

The London Beats in Poland March 65
London Beats in Poland, 1965. Left to right: John Carroll, Jimmy Smith, Peter Carney and Mick Tucker

The London Beats were the first Western rock band to tour behind the Iron Curtain, releasing an ultra-rare LP in Poland and three Polish-only EPs.

Significantly, its members also went on to such notable bands as Geno Washington’s Ram Jam Band, Fortes Mentum, Hamilton & The Hamilton Movement, The Flower Pot Men, The Nashville Teens, Aquila, Cressida and Tranquility.

Moonriders, left to right: Mick Godfrey, Simon Coaffee, Tony Terry, Mick Tucker and Terry Jones
Moonriders, left to right: Mick Godfrey, Simon Coaffee, Tony Terry, Mick Tucker and Tony Jones

Lead guitarist/singer Mick Tucker, rhythm guitarist/singer Tony Terry and bass player Simon Coaffee (aka Sam Clifton) first came together in Horley, Surrey outfit, The Moonriders, in early 1963, alongside singer Tony Jones and drummer Mick Godfrey. Not long after, the band changed name to The Pete Chester Combo after Chester took over the drum stool.

“For a while [Pete] became the band leader, because to us he was nationally famous,” explains Tucker. “His dad was a big radio star. Charlie Chester was a household name in the 1960s.”

Tony Jones, however, didn’t stay long and Mick Tucker poached lead singer Frank Bennett from local rivals, The Rockatones. Paired with producer Mickie Most, who introduced South African singer Jackie Frisco (later Gene Vincent’s wife) and his brother Dave Hayes as guest singers, The Pete Chester Combo recorded “Love Comes Only Once”, which was subsequently shelved.

Pete Chester Combo 1963
Pete Chester Combo, 1963. Left to right: Tony Jones, Mick Tucker, Simon Coaffee, Pete Chester and Tony Terry

When Pete Chester retired that autumn, original sticks man Mick Godfrey briefly re-joined, just in time for an aborted six-day tour of Israel.

Reverting to The Moonriders, the quintet cut a private demo disc comprising five songs – “Da Doo Ron Ron”, “Every Day”, “Love Potion No 9”, “Memphis Tennessee” and “Talk About You”, and this landed the band a contract with Johnnie Jones’s London City Agency. The agent suggested a new name.

“The London Beats was his [Johnnie Jones’s] idea, particularly in Europe because it said where we were from and what sort of music we played,” explains Tucker.

London Beats, early 1964, left to right: Mick Tucker, Tony Terry, Frank Bennett, Jimmy Smith, Simon Coaffee
London Beats, early 1964, left to right: Mick Tucker, Tony Terry, Frank Bennett, Jimmy Smith, Simon Coaffee

Jones arranged a six-month deal with a promoter in West Germany, kicking off in January 1964, but Mick Godfrey bailed. Shuffling the pack, Frank Bennett recommended drummer Jimmy Smith from Lewes band, The Shades.

The London Beats shortly after James Smith joined. Photo: Mid Sussex Times

 

“Frank used to turn up to quite a few late ’63 gigs; he’d come up on stage and do a few numbers with us,” says Smith. “I remember being really impressed by his R&B voice.”

The London Beats in Germany during 1964Departing for Frankfurt in March 1964, The London Beats worked the German club scene and American bases until mid-December, by which point Tony Terry had returned home (later forming The Pack).

In London, Mickie Most played the musicians a pre-release master tape of The Animals’ “House of The Rising Sun”. “We knew straight away that it would be a hit record,” remembers Coaffee.

That December, the quartet recorded a cover of Ian Tyson’s “Four Strong Winds” with producer Terry Kennedy, possibly credited as Bennett Tucker.

The London Beats based in Germany 1964According to Tucker, Kennedy was putting the final touches to ‘Funny How Love Can Be’ by The Ivy League, and ‘Catch The Wind’ by Donovan,” around the same time. He hired Simon Coaffee to play bass on The Ivy League’s “Tossin’ and Turnin’”.

Then, in January 1965, it was back to Germany for two months to play at the Funny Crow and Top Ten in Hamburg, the latter alongside Howie Casey’s band, Beryl Marsden and Paddy, Klaus & Gibson.

“We did some recordings at the Top Ten, which became a studio during the day,” remembers Tucker.

“Frank Bennett and I did some backing vocals for Isabelle Bond, the resident singer at the Top Ten club – German versions of ‘Bread and Butter’ and also ‘Downtown’. Klaus [Voorman] was also one of the backing singers.”

Back home, Jones offered them a three-month contract in Poland as part of a musician union exchange with the Polish Modern Jazz Quartet. However, Frank Bennett and Simon Coaffee weren’t interested.

“The Polish national agency wanted us because they’d heard through a third party at some trade fair in Poznan in Poland that we were making shed loads of money for our manager in Germany and so the Poles thought we’d like to get in on this,” explains Tucker. “They asked specifically for us even though they’d never heard of us.”

“My father wouldn’t let me go,” explains Bennett on his decision to bail out. “You couldn’t bring the money out, which was a problem. That was the reason. Also, I went back to Germany and joined The Statesmen, an American five-piece harmony band.”

London Beats fivepiece in 1964In 1967, Bennett joined Fortes Mentum. The band later released three singles for Parlophone and enough material for an album, which has recently been issued on a CD with Pussy.

Keen to see behind the Iron Curtain, Tucker and Smith recruited an organist and bass player who would join them alongside a female vocalist, a specification in the Polish contract.

Through Melody Maker, they hired Hammond organist John Carroll, who recommended his band mate from Ealing group, The Flexmen – bass player Peter Carney.

Later on, Johnny Jones also recruited a female vocalist – Birmingham-based club singer Linda Crabtree (Linda Fortune) as a solo artist with her own contract.

The musicians headed to Poland in March 1965 and soon after recorded an ultra-rare LP for the Polskie Nagrania Muza label in a church hall in Wroclaw.

“The record company had trucked in a twin-track mobile studio from Warsaw because our itinerary was full and they didn’t want to wait,” says Smith.

“The equipment was pretty old and they didn’t seem to have any experience of recording rock/pop music, resulting in the sound quality and balance leaving a lot to be desired.”

Something of a collector’s item, the album features a fascinating choice of covers, including Sam Cooke’s “Bring It On Home To Me”, Buddy Holly’s “Maybe Baby” and Burt Bacharach and Hal David’s “Walk On By”.

The London Beats in Poland, 1965. Left to right: John Carroll, Jimmy Smith, Peter Carney and Mick Tucker
The London Beats in Poland, 1965. Left to right: John Carroll, Jimmy Smith, Peter Carney and Mick Tucker

With the initial contract nearing its end, Pagart (the Polish agency) offered to extend the group’s stay.

“We negotiated our own contract with the Polish authorities because we were fed up with the London City Agency, which had done nothing really to help us,” confesses Tucker.

“In the whole three months we were there [initially] we didn’t hear from them once. We were a bit pissed off with that, so we negotiated the next thing, which is why the name slightly changed to The Original London Beat. That was just for legal reasons.”

Left to right: John Carroll, Peter Carney and Mick Tucker
Left to right: John Carroll, Peter Carney and Mick Tucker

The quartet returned to Poland in late June but after about two months, John Carroll and Pete Carney returned to home, both joining Tony Knight’s Chessmen.

Carney would subsequently become a long-standing member of Geno Washington’s Ram Jam Band while Carroll would hook up with Herbie Goins & The Night-Timers and later join The Flowerpot Men.

Also back in the UK, Mick Tucker recruited bass player Kevin McCarthy from Tolworth, Surrey outfits The Trends (later The 4 Degrees) and The Peasants, and Australian rhythm guitarist Tony Stanton.

“Mick Tucker contacted me, came over and told me about The London Beats,” remembers McCarthy. “I played him a recording of the 4 Degrees, which must have been good enough for him to consider me for the job. We got together at his house in Horley to rehearse, where I met the new singer Sterry Moore.”

New line up. Left to right: Mick Tucker, Frank Stanton, Kevin McCarthy and Jimmy Smith
New line up. Left to right: Mick Tucker, Tony Stanton, Kevin McCarthy and Jimmy Smith

The female singer (no relation to actor Roger Moore) was brought in to take over from Linda Crabtree on both the recording and touring front. However, as McCarthy points out, Tucker’s decision to bring in another guitarist was a last minute decision.

“He found [a keyboardist] in Melody Maker and we went to meet him. He had a brand new Vox Continental organ and he could really play it. This was Eddie Hardin, who later joined Spencer Davis. Alas, he did not want to go to Poland with The London Beats for six months.”

On 25 October 1965, the musicians flew to Warsaw where they were reunited with Jimmy Smith.

“We began rehearsals and the agency organised photos and posters,” continues McCarthy. “They took our names straight off our passports and printed them on the posters…

“Mick was a tall guy, well-built with very long hair. I’m 5 ‘2” and was still suffering from a butchered haircut I’d gotten for The Peasants so we must have looked very strange together. However, we were treated like VIPs.”

That winter, the reconfigured line up recorded 12 tracks on four-track at Polskie Nagrania Muza’s studio in Warsaw Old Town, which were released over the next six months over three EPs. In recording terms and quality they were far superior to the earlier recordings.

With singer Sterry Moore
With singer Sterry Moore

The first EP, entitled The Original London Beat, and featuring Mick Tucker on all lead vocals, came out in late 1965 and comprised the tracks, “Walking The Dog”, “Wanna Walk In The Sunshine”, “Hang on Sloopy” and Scarlet Ribbons”.

This was followed in early 1966 by I’ll Go Crazy, which featured Mick Tucker on lead vocals on two tracks – “I’ll Go Crazy” and “If You Gotta Go, Go Now” and Polish singer Mira Kubansinka on the remaining tracks, “Walking In The Sand” and “You’re No Good”.

The final EP, Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood, also released in 1966, featured Sterry Moore on lead vocals on all four tracks – “Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood”, “I Had a Talk With My Man”, “The Biggest Players” and “Won’t Be Long”.

London Beats Poland late 1965
Joined by Mira Kubansinka (third left)

Joined by Mira Kubansinka for a nationwide tour, the musicians traversed the country in a bus, right in the dead of winter.

“Snow was often piled high on the side of the road,” remembers McCarthy. “In the country, there were horse-drawn carts everywhere and people working very hard to survive. Cities were stark, cold and old-fashioned with foreboding-looking statues and shrapnel damage still visible on the walls of buildings leftover from the war.”

McCarthy adds that while The London Beats were touring in Poland, other UK groups like The Hollies and Lulu & The Luvvers started arriving.

However, with the extended contract coming to an end in late January 1966, and the opportunities to work in Poland exhausted, the musicians lost interest.

On 15 March 1966, most of the band flew to London. No longer celebrities the musicians had to start from scratch.

“I was fed up with living out of a suitcase by then and we had no feeling of going forward,” admits Tucker.

“We’d been for want of a better word, big stars in Poland and wherever else we’d play from there on, we’d have to work from the bottom up again. After five or six years at it, I thought I’d quit and have some happy memories.”

Tony Terry and Mick Tucker
Tony Terry and Mick Tucker

Tucker reunited with former member Tony Terry and worked the folk club circuit from 1967-1968.

The pair then set up a travel business driving mini buses all over Europe and North Africa. Tucker was offered the opportunity to return to Poland but declined.

Four Ovus, August 1966. Photo: Mid Sussex Times

Jimmy Smith, Sterry Moore and Kevin McCarthy formed Forovus with guitarist Ken Ali. Having started calling herself Mary McCarthy, Moore then recorded the single “People Like You” with singer Mickey Clarke, which was released on CBS in January 1967. She recorded two solo singles – “The Folk I Love” and “Happy Days and Lonely Nights”– that same year.

Jimmy Smith, who nearly joined The New Pirates (alongside John Carroll), replaced Phil Wainman in Hamilton & The Hamilton Movement. After a brief reunion with Carroll in Germany, a short spell with The Nashville Teens and The Fantastics, he recorded an album with Aquila in 1970.

Kevin McCarthy hooked up with R&B outfit, Ivan St Clair & System Soul Band, before landing on his feet: “Sometime in 1968 I answered an ad in Melody Maker and met John Heyworth and Angus Cullen; we would eventually become Cressida and record two albums for Vertigo with producer/manager Ossie Byrne.”

When Cressida split in November 1970, McCarthy joined Tranquility and appeared on two albums and some unreleased tracks before moving to Los Angeles in 1976. He has participated in several Cressida reunions and continues to play guitar and write songs.

“Interestingly, one of my songs recorded by another artist was ‘One Way Ticket’, which appeared on The Hollies’ Then, Now, Always, album released in 2010.”

London Beats Reunion 21 March 2015
The first reunion on 21 March 2015. Left to right: Mick Tucker, Simon Coaffee, Jimmy Smith and Tony Terry. Photo credit: Pam Terry

As for the original London Beats, Mick Tucker, Jimmy Smith, Simon Coaffee and Tony Terry reunited on 21 March this year with plans for a second reunion with Frank Bennett on 11 July.

Huge thanks to Mick Tucker, Jimmy Smith, Frank Bennett, Peter Carney, Simon Coaffee, John Carroll and Kevin McCarthy.

London Beats Germany poster

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The Flexmen

Flexmen photo
Standing from top left: Pete Ross (guitar), John Carroll (organ), Dalek (security) & Kenny Power (sax). Kneeling, from left: Steve Horrell (road manager), Hans Herbert (drums) & Pete Carney (bass)
July 4, 1964
July 4, 1964

Judging by an article (at right) in the Middlesex County Times and West Middlesex Gazette from 4 July 1964, The Flexmen came from the Ealing, Middlesex area. The line up comprised:

Pete Ross – guitar
Pete Carney – bass
Ken Power – sax
Bob Sellars – sax
Hans Herbert – drums

Peter Carney had started out playing rhythm guitar with Ealing band, The Krewsaders during 1962. Formed with his cousin, lead guitarist Micky Holmes, the pair added drummer John “Speedy” Keene, after coming across the young sticks man at a local youth club. Keene in turn introduced John McVie.

“Speedy said that he knew this guy who wanted to join a band and that his father would buy him a bass guitar and amp if he did,” recalls Carney on McVie’s addition to The Krewsaders.

Unfortunately, in early 1963, McVie left to join John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers and his departure contributed to the group’s break up.

“John McVie lived near a guy named Cliff Barton who played with Cyril Davies and told John that John Mayall was looking for a bass player and got the gig,” remembers Carney.

With Micky Holmes and Speedy Keene forming rival Ealing band, The Second Thoughts, who became regulars at the Ealing Club, Peter Carney swapped to bass and formed a new band with lead guitarist Pete Ross, who knew and lived near The Krewsaders’ manager, Steve Horrell.

According to Keith Gardiner, rhythm guitarist with Jeff Curtis & The Flames, Pete Ross had worked with him and future Jimi Hendrix sticksman Mitch Mitchell in a rudimentary band at Tudor Rose Youth Club in Southall, Middlesex in late 1957.

As Ross recalls, his playing history did indeed go back to youth club groups in the late 1950s during which time he listened to a wide range of music – Segovia, Barney Kessel, Chet Atkins and Hank Marvin to name a few.

“I started on the ukulele and moved up to an acoustic guitar which I found in a second-hand shop – finally on to a Broadway guitar, which had a couple of pickups and a tremolo arm so I could do all those ‘Shadow-y’ things,” he says.

Thanks to an older sister who “chaperoned” him to Southall Community Centre every Sunday to catch top artists of the era like Gene Vincent, Johnny Kidd & The Pirates, Little Richard and Chuck Berry, Ross developed a broad taste in music although he says his main focus was on US artists such as Richard Barrett.

Flexmen photo

Flexmen photoThe lead guitarist knew Steve Horrell, who lived around the corner from him and also owned a red-pillar box early Ford Transit van, which would become The Flexmen’s mode of transport. It was Horrell who linked the two Peters up.

“Pete and I immediately hit it off and realised we both wanted to play the same kind of music with him heavily into Bob Dylan, Doris Troy, and loads of other ‘obscure’ artists whose music was enlightening,” says Carney.

“We were both in awe of Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers and would go and watch them at Southall Community Centre whenever they played there so decided that this is what our band would be like.”

After scouring the local youth clubs, the pair came across sax player Kenny Power, who introduced his sax playing friend Bob Sellars. Drummer Hans Herbert completed the line up not long after. The drummer says he already knew Power through a mutual friend called “Podge”.

Herbert had first got into drumming after befriending Speedy Keene during The Krewsaders’ period. “One time after they had finished playing at a gig, he asked me if I would like to have a go on the drums,” says Herbert. “He said I was a natural and that there were plenty of bands out there looking for drummers.”

Herbert’s first band was The Raiders. After a very brief spell with another local group, The Saints, the drummer joined his first big band, The Rumours.

The band debuted at Elthorne Youth Club. According to the Middlesex County Times and West Middlesex Gazette, the band played at Ealing Town Hall on 11 September 1964 and 8 October 1964 (where The Second Thoughts, featuring Micky Holmes and Speedy Keene, also appeared on the bill).

The Flexmen also appeared at Victoria Hall, Ealing on 26 June 1964 and 24 November 1964 (sharing the bill with Jimmy Royal & The Hawks). Another gig from this period took place at Shackleton Hall in Southall on 4 December 1964. As Pete Ross points out, the band was frequently mentioned in the newspaper. “A close school friend of mine – Mike Ryder – was a journo on the Middlesex Times and gave us column inches on a regular basis.”

Sometime during this time, The Flexmen took part in a “Battle of the Bands” competition at Wimbledon Theatre where they came second. Not long after, however, Bob Sellars departed and the group recruited organ player John Carroll. “When John joined with his Vox Continental, we included songs by The Animals and other keyboard-y stuff,” remembers Ross. The band also recorded a series of demo tracks, including covers of “Fortune Teller”, “Poison Ivy” and “Reelin’ and Rockin’”.

However, around July 1965, new recruit Carroll answered an advert in New Musical Express, asking for an organist to join a band to tour Poland. The group, known as The London Beats, needed a bass player and Peter Carney passed the audition.

With Carroll and Carney out of the picture, The Flexmen splintered. Hans Herbert joined The Rumours and then The Just Four, who changed name to The Guests in 1966.

It’s not clear what Kenny Power did immediately after the band’s break up that summer. However, during  late 1966 he reunited with Hans Herbert in another west London band called The All Night Workers.

After touring Poland for about three months, Peter Carney and John Carroll decided not to participate in a second tour. Carney next joined Tony Knight’s Chessmen in late 1965 but after a year he jumped ship to join Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band.

Carroll, meanwhile, worked with several other local bands before reuniting with Carney in The Chessmen. In early 1967, however, he joined Nick Simper, Mick Stewart and John Kerrison in a very short-lived version of The New Pirates (formed after Johnny Kidd’s death) and toured the UK.

Around May 1967, Carney reunited with Carroll once again and also Hans Herbert when he managed to recruit them into Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band. The reunion was short-lived, however, and both musicians were replaced before the decade was out.

Flexmen photo

Flexmen Christmas cardCarney subsequently moved to Australia where he played with The Bullamakanka Bush Grass Band. He has since returned to the UK and currently plays with English folk band, Hawkie Chapman.

As for Pete Ross, in the summer of 1965, he signed up with a six-piece R&B band from West London called The Ray Martin Group, who were a regular fixture at the Ealing Club throughout 1965 and later at nearby Feathers. The band’s line up also included singer Ray Martin, sax player Terry Marshall (son of the famous Jim Marshall) and drummer Paul Atkinson.

Ross went on to work with a number of bands before starting up the worldwide company CP Cases along with a drummer friend who also worked in Jim Marshall’s shop in Hanwell. The Isleworth, Middlesex-based company designs and manufacturers hi-performance protective cases for transport, operation and storage of essential equipment.

Many thanks to Peter Carney, Hans Herbert and Pete Ross for helping to piece together the band’s story. Thank you Pete Ross for supplying the band photos.

Copyright © Nick Warburton. All Rights Reserved. No part of this article may be reproduced or transmitted in any from or by any means, without prior permission from the author.

Garage Hangover would be interested to hear from anyone who can provide more information on this band. Contact the author at Warchive@aol.com.

Photo: Hillingdon Mirror 27 April 1965 page 24