The Fredericksburg Standard of July 7, 1965 published a photo and profile of the Crossfires, a band that would go on to become the Fountain of Youth.
The Crossfires won seventh place among 78 groups at a battle of the bands at the Surfers A Go Go club in Dallas. They were all students at St. Mary’s School in Fredericksburg.
Gary Itri – bass guitar Gary Jenschke – lead guitar Jimmy Panza – drummer and vocalist Kenneth Molberg – rhythm guitar
Two bands from Dallas won the top prizes: the Green Men, (I believe that would be Johnny and the Green Men) won first place and the Soul Rockers second. The Briks from Denton came in third.
The article notes that the Crossfires were the youngest group in the contest, and placed ahead of the LaVelles. The Crossfires started in March 1964 as the Fugitives, and had guidance from KNAF DJ Johnny Almon.
Although the article states that the Soul Rockers “have cut several best selling records”, I am unaware of any by that group name.
The Crossfires cut a version of Robb London and the Rogue‘s “Who’ll Be the One” / “Making Love Is Fun” on Tower 278 in 1966. I’ve seen a copy with a stamp from the Itri Record Shop in Fredericksburg!
The band relocated to California and with a name change to the Fountain of Youth, had four singles on Colgems. Billboard ran a full-page ad titled “Fountain of Youth has been discovered in Texas” to promote their first Colgems single, “Livin’ Too Fast”.
I’m a big fan of the B-side of their second Colgems single, “Don’t Blame Me (for Trying)” from June of 1968, by a somewhat obscure song writer, Ken Walker. “Day Don’t Come”, the B-side of “Sunshine on a Cold Morning” is also a standout.
Ken Molberg had left the group by the time of their last single. “Witness People” is the only recorded song that the band wrote themselves, by Itri, Panza and Jenschke. It’s one of their best, with a heavier sound than the earlier singles.
The group had a Kickstarter campaign to remaster & reissue their singles on CDR and vinyl, which has some additional info about the group.
Gary Itri passed away in January, 2014.
If anyone has photos or info on any of these groups please contact me. This photo from the Fredericksburg Standard is not bad by microfilm standards, but better quality photos must be out there.
The Rubber Maze released one excellent double-sided single on Tower 351 in July 1967, featuring two different styles. The A-side is “Mrs. Griffith”, typical of the soft psychedelia of the era, written by Marty Cooper, who co-produced the single with Ray Ruff.
Ray Ruff and Marty Cooper ran the Ruff and Sully labels, based out of Amarillo, Texas. Their publishing companies Little Darlin’ Music Co. and Checkmate Music BMI published both songs. I’ve read this single came out on the Ruff label but haven’t yet seen a copy.
I really dig the flip, a straight-up garage song “Won’t See Me Down”, written by Rubber Maze member Dennis Swinden.
Bassist Ronnie Verge commented on a video of “Mrs. Griffith”:
The Rubber Maze formed in 1965 in San Francisco and moved to Orange County, CA. They started up as The Young Men From Boston, shortly there after change to The Maze, and in 1967 changed to The Rubber Maze. They disbanded in late 1968.
Lead vocals and drums: Reggie Boyd Vocals, lead guitar and keyboard: Dennis Swinden Vocals, rhythm guitar: Brian Blanchard Vocals, bass and cello: Ronnie Verge
Alternate Member on vocals and lead guitar: Chad Blanchard
The Rubber Maze toured a substantial part of the U.S. with the Yellow Payges as part of Happening ’67, a tour organized by Dick Clark. Each show had local acts in the opening slots, and received a fair amount of press. There were shows in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Illinois and Wisconsin during July and August 1967.
The clipping at the top comes from Mike Dugo of 60sgaragebands.com, part of a two-page write up on a Dick Clark tour with The Split Ends and Yellow Payges in 1968 in Teen Screen.
The Rubber Maze had no connection to the Maze who had the LP Armageddon on the MTA label.
A single on Philips as the Eastside Kids likely had no connection to the East Side Kids I will be discussing in this article. Philips 40295 from June of 1965 has a great bluesy instrumental “Sunday Stranger” written by Billy Strange and almost certainly he’s playing the lead guitar too.
The other side was also an instrumental, “Subway Train” written by Billy Carl, Ron Gentile, and Richard Moehrle. Hear both at Left and to the Back blog, from which I took the label scan seen here.
Billy Carl (aka Billy Carlucci) co-wrote “(We’ll Meet in the) Yellow Forest” for Jay and the Americans, “Goody Goody Gumdrops” for the 1910 Fruitgum Company, and many other songs.
Ron Gentile and Richard Moehrle (aka Rick Morley) were in the Secrets. They wrote a classic instrumental called “Twin Exhaust”, released on Swan in 1962. As Crystal Mansion they had a 1968 single and LP on Capitol.
In May of 1966 there’s a single by the East Side Kids “Chocolate Matzos”/”Night Mist Blue” on Warner Bros. 5821. Like the Philips single, this sounds like a studio production, but is more exotica than rock ‘n roll, and I doubt the East Side Kids I’ll be discussing below were a part of this. Both sides written by C.B. Jerry for Phenomenal Music BMI, and produced by Dick Glasser.
So now let’s get on with the actual Sunset Strip group the East Side Kids and their initial incarnation as the Sound of the Seventh Son.
In September of 1965, the Sound of the Seventh Son released their single on Tower 169. “I Told a Lie” is a good, crude garage rock. It was written by James Greenspoone (aka Jimmy Greenspoon) and Ed Fontaine. On the flip was the Byrds-like “I’ll Be On My Way”, written by Dollarhide, Greenspoone, Fontaine. Both songs published by Chemistry Music BMI, produced by Al Hazan for S.O.S. Productions.
The Sound of the Seventh Son also recorded a one-sided demo “She Lost Me” which I haven’t heard – anyone have a copy of that?
One of the first venues we performed at was called Stratford on Sunset. The owner was Jerry Lambert and his nephew’s group, The East Side Kids, was the house band. At that time, they had another name, something like The Sound of the Seventh Son, I think. They were older, very professional and served as mentors to us … Stratford was great while it lasted … and it was Jerry Lambert again who got me the audition for The Yellow Payges a year later.
Members of the Sound of the Seventh Son were:
Joe Madrid – vocals David Doud – lead guitar Michael Doud – bass guitar Jimmy Greenspoon – piano Danny Belsky – drums
Greenspoon and Danny Belsky had been playing together since the very early ’60s with the New Dimensions with Michael Lloyd, Craig Nuttycombe and Art Guy. David Doud had joined when the band became the Alley Kats.
The band received press when they went to court on September 2, 1965 to get their contracts with Tower Records and SOS Productions approved and Judge A.A. Scott exclaimed “They look like freaks! … I don’t know whether they are girls or boys … God help them if they get to some real men”. The band were all between the ages of 18 and 21. Coverage was so thorough, and photographs so timely, that I have to wonder if this was a publicity stunt to coincide with their Tower single release.
The band also appears in the background of a fashion photo shoot for the LA Times magazine taken at the Crescendo Club, though only Madrid, Belsky and Greenspoon are visible in the photos.
Around the time Stratford on Sunset closed in December 1965, the Sound of the Seventh Son became the East Side Kids. Although the Warner Bros. single came in May of 1966, there may be no connection between that production and this group. Dominic Priore, in Riot on the Sunset Strip says that the East Side Kids “took up a residency at a club called Wild Thing near Hollywood and Vine before moving on to the Hullabaloo, leaving their original house band spot to the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band.”
There’s a great photo (at top of page) of the band at the Sea Witch on Sunset Blvd with guitarist Denis Lambert, who would sit in with the group and later form Lambert and Nuttycombe with Craig Nuttycombe of the New Dimensions.
In January of 1967 the East Side Kids release their single “Take A Look In The Mirror” /”Close Your Mind” on Orange Empire Records OE-500. “Take A Look In The Mirror” has a good guitar break while “Close Your Mind” has more drama in the performance. Someone, probably Danny Belsky, is playing the flute on both sides.
The songs were written by Bernie Schwartz and M. Cavett, but the A-side was published by World Showplace Music, Inc, BMI while the flip by Egap BMI.
Bernie Schwartz has an interesting history, releasing two 45s on the Tide label as Don Atello, including “Questions I Can’t Answer” which you may remember from Boulders vol. 7. He then released “Her Name Is Melody” / “I Go to Sleep” as Adrian Pride on Warner Bros 5867. After writing for the East Side Kids, the Yellow Payges and Power, he formed the Comfortable Chair who had the excellent single “Be Me” plus and LP on Ode, and his own LP The Wheel on CoBurt.
Jimmy Greenspoon seems to have left the group at some point in 1967. In June, he released a 45 as Boystown “Hello Mr. Sun” / “End of the Line” with Michael Lloyd who had just left the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band. Around this time he moved to Denver for close to a year before returning and forming Three Dog Night.
I’m not sure if Jimmy Greenspoon was still with the group in October, 1967 when they put out their next single on Valhalla 672, which features Jimmy’s original “Listen to the Wise Man” plus a song by Doud and Madrid “Little Bird”. Both sides feature strings and pop production by Larry Tamblyn of the Standells. Publishing by Kim Fowley Music and Padua Music, BMI.
Valhalla also released 45s by the Sunday Funnies (“A Pindaric Ode” / “Whatcha Gonna Do”) and the Vikings (“Boo-Hoo-Hoo” / “Lonely Prisoner”).
Danny Belsky also seems to have left in 1967, being replaced by David Potter from the Bushmen and Euphoria.
By January, 1968, according to one article I found, the members were:
Joe Madrid – lead vocals David Doud – guitar Mike Doud – bass David Potter – drums
This group recorded their LP The Tiger And The Lamb on Uni 73032 in 1968. Buzz Clifford and Dan Moore, both formerly of Hamilton Streetcar, produced the album. Clifford and Moore also contributed songs, along with John Fleck of the Standells and Wesley Watt of Euphoria. Dave Potter and David Doud each contributed one original composition. One single was taken from the album, David Doud’s “Taking The Time” backed with Fleck’s “Is My Love Strong” for UNI 55105 in early 1969.
Gladstone
Around October of 1968 a 45 turns up under the name Gladstone, “Pitter Patter” / “Gone By Day” on Kirk Record Co KR-5002. Under the artist name is “Tracks by EAST SIDE KIDS” and D.F. Potter (David Potter) is one of the producers along with Gregory and Gladstone. Both sides were written by Gladstone but published by different companies, Song & Dance Music BMI and Rockliffe Music BMI.
I cannot determine if Gladstone was a particular person or only an alias for the East Side Kids, but “Gone By Day” ranks among the best performances the East Side Kids were ever involved in.
In May of 1969 a Gladstone single appears on A&M Records 1061, the beautiful “What a Day” backed with the hard-rockin’ “Upsome”, both originals by Al Graham.
Alex Palao wrote to me: “The Gladstone on Kirk was an LA-based singer named Gary Gladstone, [who] cut an earlier(?), way better version of Gone By Day at Original Sound, along with other stuff. Not the same as the A&M / San Jose group of Otherside/Bogus Thunder lineage.”
I wouldn’t necessarily link this single to the East Side Kids except for the producer, Lee Michaels, whose album Carnival of Life included Wesley Watt and David Potter. However, one source lists this Gladstone band as from San Jose, CA, with members Alan Graham (vocals, bass), Ned Torney (guitar, keyboards, vocals), Ken Matthew (drums, vocals) and Jim Sawyers (guitar). Torney, Matthew and Sawyers had been in the Other Side, who had one fine single on Brent in Nov. 1965, “Streetcar” / “Walking Down the Road”. By 1969 they had been playing with Al Graham as Bogus Thunder (possibly with Wayne Paulsen on guitar instead of Jim Sawyers – sources differ).
No connection to the early ’70s band called Gladstone from Tyler, Texas that recorded on ABC and Probe.
I don’t know how the band ended, or what most of the group did afterwards. David Potter joined Endle St. Cloud, with whom he formed Potter St. Cloud. He was also a session drummer. He passed away in 2011. I believe the Doud brothers are both gone too.
I’ve had this 45 for years but am only now getting around to covering it. I don’t recall ever reading about the band in any detail.
“I’m Grounded” is a well-known psychedelic classic written by Timmy Phelan (Jitters Music, BMI), but originally it was the b-side to “If You Can Put That In a Bottle” written by Billy Meshel for Meager Music, BMI.
The record was released on Tower 372 in October of 1967. The band came from Wantaugh, Long Island but other than that I don’t know anything about the group, nor have I seen a photo of them.
I don’t believe there’s a connection to a release by the Minimum Daily Requirement (singular) on Mercury, “Free the People” / “I Do Believe the Sun Will Shine”.
Larry Tamblyn (keyboards, vocals) Tony Valentino (lead guitar) Gary Lane (bass) Gary Leeds (drums)
1962
The group is formed in Los Angeles by Larry Tamblyn (b. February 5, 1943, Inglewood, California, US), (brother of actor Russ Tamblyn), and guitarist Tony Valentino (b. Emilio Tony Belilissimo, May 24, 1941, Longi, Italy), who arrived in the US in 1958. Tamblyn has previously recorded three singles for local label, Faro.
Tamblyn and Valentino form the original Standells with Jody Rich (bass) and Benny King (drums) and work in Hawaii at the Oasis club in Honolulu for several months. The group takes its name from the long hours spent hanging around record company offices awaiting an audition.
1963
January The Standells work at the Club Esquire in Eureka, California. Soon afterwards, former New York Aerospace Technology school student, Gary Leeds (b. September 3, 1944, Glendale, California, US) and bass player Gary Lane (b. Gary McMillan, September 18, 1940, St Paul, Minnesota, US) take over from King and Rich. The group’s first recording is the single, “The Shake”, which receives airplay on KFWB radio station. May The group plays at the Royal Room in West Los Angeles. August The Standells appear at Tykes in Pasadena, California. September The band performs at the Trophy Room in Sacramento, California and then becomes the house band at the Peppermint West in Hollywood. December The Standells’ debut single, “You’ll Be Mine Some Day” is released as Larry Tamblyn and The Standells on Faro’s subsidiary label, Linda Records.
1964
February (6) Tamblyn, Valentino, Lane and Leeds sign a record contract with Liberty Records. March The group plays at the Thunderbird Lounge in Las Vegas billed as America’s answer to The Beatles. May Gary Leeds leaves to join first Johnny Rivers and then P.J. Proby, before co-founding The Walker Brothers, and is replaced by Dick Dodd (b. October 27, 1943, Hermosa Beach, California, US) from surf band, Eddie & The Showmen. (Dodd has also been an original mouseketeer on the popular TV show, The Mickey Mouse Club). June The Standells land a residency at Hollywood’s illustrious nightclub, PJ’s (where they record an album) and also play at the Haunted House on Hollywood Boulevard. Liberty releases the single, “Peppermint Beatle”, in an attempt to cash-in on The Beatles’ recent US success, but the single flops. July A cover of James Brown’s “I’ll Go Crazy” is lifted from the forthcoming album and issued as a single but fails to chart. In The UK, b-side, “Help Yourself” is released as the single.
September Liberty releases debut album, The Standells In Person At PJ’s, a blatant cash-in on The Kingsmen’s recent live album, Louie Louie: The Kingsmen In Person. The record is released in the UK the following year; the only Standells album to be issued there. The Standells travel to Nicaragua for 12 days. October (17) A final Liberty single, a version of Johnny Otis’ “So Fine” is taken from the album but does not chart. The band signs a new deal with VJ Records. December (5) The Standells perform at Sammy Lee’s Westlake in Chatworth, California. (22) The band makes its third return to P J’s in Hollywood.
(26) Having signed a new recording deal with Vee-Jay Records, the band’s debut single for the label, “The Boy Next Door”, produced by Sonny Bono and featuring Cher on backing vocals, is released and eventually peaks at US #102. The single’s release comes on the heels of MGM film, “Get Yourself A College Girl”, where the band performs covers of “Bony Moronie” and “The Swim”. (31) The Standells appear on That Regis Philbin Show and perform a cover of The Beatles’ “I Want To Hold Your Hand” and one other song.
1965
January (7) The Standells open New Tiger A-Go-Go Room in the Hilton Hotel, San Francisco. (18) “Zebra In The Kitchen” is released as a single by MGM but is not a success.
March (18) The Standells appear in episode “Far Out Munsters” for the popular TV programme, The Munsters. After the initial success of “Help Yourself” as a single in Los Angeles, Dodd become the group’s principal lead singer. (20) The band appears on American Bandstand with Brenda Holloway. (25) The group appears on Shindig with Dick and Dee Dee, Shirley Ellis, Bobby Goldsboro, The Trade Winds and Glen Campbell.
April The Standells return to the Tiger-A-Go-Go at San Francisco Hilton Hotel where they are advertised as the “return of the Wild Standells”. May(28) The band plays at the Gardon Grove’s Alamitos Intermediate School assembly. July(12) The Standells appear on Hollywood Discotechque TV show. August Final Vee-Jay single, “Don’t Say Goodbye”, backed by “Big Boss Man” is released but fails to chart. October The band is introduced to Ed Cobb, a former member of fifties vocal group, The Four Preps, who is currently working as a freelance producer and songwriter. Cobb is looking for a group to record one of his recent compositions, “Dirty Water”; a song written about a recent experience he had fighting off muggers, while walking with his girlfriend along the River Charles in Boston. He is suitably impressed with The Standells to use them on the track and offers his services to the group as a manager/producer. Shortly after, Cobb is approached by Tower Records (a subsidiary of Capitol), who are eager to obtain a record he has produced for Ketty Lester. Cobb proposes a deal, whereby Tower agree to sign The Standells in return for the Lester single. November “Dirty Water” is released as a single but is slow to sell. Dodd, who apparently hates the song, leaves the group and is replaced by former Sir Raleigh & The Cupons, drummer/vocalist, Dewey Martin (b. Dewayne Midkiff, September 30, 1940, Chesterville, Ontario, Canada; d. 31 January 2009). The group records a version of “Why Did You Hurt Me” with Martin on lead vocal but it is re-recorded when Dodd rejoins the band a few months later. December (5) The Standells perform at the Tiger-A-Go-Go in San Mateo, California.
1966
February Dodd rejoins the band while they are working San Jose (and after Cobb arranges a summer tour supporting The Rolling Stones). Martin, meanwhile, leaves to join The Dillards, before gaining greater acclaim with The Buffalo Springfield. May Bass player Gary Lane leaves the band during its first concert tour and is replaced in Florida by former member of the Tropics, Choir and Rush, Dave Burke. (20) The Standells appear at Birmingham High School, Van Nuys with The Jefferson Airplane, The Doors, The Sunshine Company and The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. (20) The Standells perform “Dirty Water”, “There’s a Storm Comin'” and “Hey Joe” on the Mike Douglas Show. June (11) After a long climb “Dirty Water” breaks into the US charts at #31, the group’s biggest hit to date. Liberty Records, exploiting the success of “Dirty Water”, reissues The Standells’ debut album as Live And Out Of Sight, adding the “Peppermint Beatles” single to the track listing. A single, “Ooh Poo Pah Doo” is also issued, to tie in with the album’s release. Second Tower single, Cobb’s “Sometimes Good Guys Don’t Wear White”, reaches US #43, while debut Tower album, Dirty Water hits #52. (24) The Standells supports The Rolling Stones at the Manning Bowl, Lynn, Massachusetts on the opening date of The Stones’ US tour. Also on the bill is The McCoys and The Tradewinds. The crowd is subdued with tear gas, and the concert (even though it goes ahead) will be the last to be held at the venue until 1985. July “Dirty Water” is The Standells’ second and final single to be released in the UK, but doesn’t chart. (9) “Dirty Water” peaks at US #11, the band’s biggest hit. (22) The Standells open with The McCoys and other acts for The Rolling Stones at the Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California. (25) The group supports The Rolling Stones at The Hollywood Bowl alongside The Buffalo Springfield, The McCoys and The Trade Winds. August “Ooh Poo Pah Doo” is lifted from the earlier live album and released on Sunset but is not a chart success. September Second album, Why Pick On Me – Sometimes Good Guys Don’t Wear White is released but doesn’t chart. November Third album in six months, Hot Ones which is entirely comprised of covers of recent hits like The Lovin’ Spoonful’s “Summer In The City” and The Beatles’ “Eleanor Rigby” is released but is not a success. Burke leaves, later to join San Francisco band Indian Puddin’ and Pipe [note: it may have been a different Dave Burke who joined Indian Puddin’ & Pipe and West Coast Natural Gas] and is replaced by John Fleck (b. Johnny Fleckenstein, US), who had been an original member of Love, co-writing “Can’t Explain” on that band’s debut album.
(26) Cobb’s “Why Pick On Me?” stalls at US #54.
1967
February The first single to feature Fleck on bass is “Try It”, arguably The Standells’ finest record. However, despite becoming an immediate hit in L.A., the record is soon banned by radio stations at the direction of rightwing moral majority radio mogul Gordon McLendon who argues that “Try It” is a blatant request for teenage girls to lose their virginity. (7-12) The band plays at the Ice House in Glendale, California. March The group releases the novelty tune, “Don’t Tell Me What To Do” under the name The Sllednats (The Standells backwards), but the single flops. (25) Valentino and Fleck’s “Riot On Sunset Strip” hits US #133. April Cobb is commissioned by Tower to come up with a soundtrack for a teenage protest film revolving around the disturbances on Sunset Strip 1966/67. The band is featured in the film, alongside label mates, The Chocolate Watchband.
May (27) The Standellls appear on Art Linkletter’s TV show, Let’s Talk, debating radio mogul Gordon McLendon, who has been leading the campaign to ban music with “objectionable” lyrics. The Standells handily defeat him. However, after creative editing, it appears the debate was more evenly matched. July (5) The Standells support The Doors and The Coasters at Lowell High School Auditorium, La Habra, California. (23) The group appears on the Shebang TV show with Brenton Wood. August (26) – September (4) The band performs at the ‘Fort Worth Teen Fair & Mardi Gras Festival’, the Will Rogers Exhibit Building, Fort Worth, Texas. (5-12) The Standells play at the Ice House in Glendale. October The Standells’ next release, the R&B/soul single, “Can’t Help But Love You” is a minor hit, peaking at US #78. Tower releases The Standells’ fourth and final album Try It, which doesn’t sell. November (7) The group appears on the TV show Groovy with The Sunshine Company. (9) The Standells make a TV appearance on Pat Boone in Hollywood. December The group appears on the Joey Bishop Show. (8-9) The Standells perform at the Cheetah, Venice, California with The Hour Glass.
1968
January (9-14) The Standells are billed to appear at the Ice House in Glendale, California but the shows are postponed until after playing at the Guitar Center in February. February (10) The group plays at the Guitar Center in Hollywood, California. April The band is eager to write and perform its own material and decides to split from Cobb, who continues to work with The Chocolate Watchband. Cobb is offered another film commission and decides to record Dodd as a solo artist without the rest of the group. Dodd records “Guilty” for the film, Square Root but problems arise over its distribution and the single flops. (9-14) The Standells return to the Ice House in Glendale for further shows. (19) The group plays at Bakersfield College, Bakersfield, California with The Illinois Speed Press. May Dodd joins Green Grass Productions as a solo artist. His place is taken by drummer Bill Daffern. June A final single, “Animal Girl” is released but is poorly received, despite being one of the group’s finest records. Featuring Tower producer Richie Podolor on sitar, and recorded before Dodd’s departure, the record is a radical departure in sound for the band and is lost in the media rush which follows. July A Larry Tamblyn’s solo single, the instrumental “Summer Clothes (Parts 1 &2)”, is released on the small Sunburst label. The one-year old track was recorded around the same time as “Can’t Help But Love You”. Dodd’s first solo single “Little Sister’ is released but fails to chart. August Fleck also drops out and moves into film work. He later becomes a top cinematographer with Jaws among his credits. The Standells recruit ex-Factory lead vocalist and guitarist Lowell George (b. April 13, 1945, Hollywood, California, US), but no recordings are made. September (3-15) The new line-up begins a series of dates at the Ice House, Glendale, California with Pipe Dream but they are never completed due to differences between Tamblyn and George. October Tower releases Dodd’s solo album, The First Evolution Of Dick Dodd but it doesn’t chart. (27) The Standells appear at the Artists and Models Ball at the Century Plaza with Taj Mahal and others. November George leaves to join Frank Zappa’s Mothers Of Invention (and later Little Feat). December Dodd’s final single “Fanny” is another chart failure and he quits the music business for the next few years. (7) A new version of The Standells supports Johnny Rivers at the College of Sante Fe with Blue Marble Faun in Sante Fe. Daffern and Tamblyn contribute material to The Electric Prunes’ final album, Just Good Old Rock and Roll.
1969
Tamblyn and Daffern form Chakras with former Knack members Michael Kaplan and Larry Gould with Valentino acting as manager. Reprise releases the Charkras single, “City Buy” c/w “Agnes Vandalism”, both sides of which are written by Michael Kaplan. Daffern leaves and subsequently records with Hunger! and later records with Truk. Tamblyn and Valentino then reform The Standells with English guitarist Paul Downing. November (14-16) Billed as The Standells, the group appears at Pier 7 in Van Nuys, California. A photo circa this time includes new members Bill Daffern (Willie Dee) and Tim Smyser.
1970
July (7-12) The Standells play at the Beach House, California. September Dodd releases the single “Requim: 820 Latham”.
1975
Dodd emerges with Los Angeles group, Joshua, who release an album Willy And The Hand Jive (produced by Ed Cobb) for the independent AVI label.
1982
American indie label Rhino Records releases compilation album The Best Of The Standells. Around the same time Valentino cuts a number of solo demos (but is unable to attract a record deal), before joining Tamblyn and Dodd in a full-scale Standells reunion.
1983
August The Standells perform at the Club Lingerie in Hollywood, the Golden Bear in Huntington Beach, a weeklong engagement at Harrah’s in Reno, Nevada, supported by The Fleshtones.
1984
Rhino Records issues second album, Rarities, a collection of rare Standells tracks, including Dodd’s solo releases and the band’s pre-Tower Vee-Jay singles.
1986
Third Rhino release The Best Of The Standells is issued. July (19-20) The Standells appear at the Summerfest/Return to the Sixties at Glen Helen Regional Park, San Bernandino, California. Tamblyn, Valentino and Dodd reunite in 1999 for the Cavestomp Festival in New York. The group records a live CD, Ban THIS, a slam at Gordon McLendon.
2000
Gary Lane rejoins The Standells as they perform at the Las Vegas Grind, Las Vegas, Nevada.
2004
The Tamblyn/Valentino/Dodd/Lane line up play before the Game Two of the World Series.
2005
April (11) The Standells appear at Fenway Park. The band will return the following year for a show on September 8.
Many thanks to Larry Tamblyn for his personal contributions.
Sources:
Bronson, Harold. Sleeve notes to Rhino album, The Best Of The Standells. Burgess, Chuck and Nowlin, Bill. Love That Dirty Water! The Standells and The Improbable Red Sox Victory Anthem, Rounder Books, 2007. Doggett, Peter. ‘The Standells’. Record Collector, May 1991, #141. Grushkin, Paul D. Art Of Rock – Posters From Presley To Punk, Artabras, Cross River Press, Ltd, 1987. Hogg, Brian. ‘Little Feat’. Strange Things Are Happening, Vol 1, #3, July/August 1988. Joynson, Vernon. Fuzz, Acid And Flowers, Borderline Productions, 1993. Maclean, Hugh and Joynson, Vernon. An American Rock History – California The Golden State, Borderline Productions, 1985. Rees, Dafydd and Crampton, Luke. Book Of Rock Stars, 2nd Edition, Guinness Publications, 1994 Robertson, John. Neil Young – The Visual Documentary, Omnibus Press, 1994. Shaw, Greg. The Doors On The Road, Omnibus Press, 1997, pages 46 and 57. Whitburn, Joel. Billboard – USA Top 40 Hits, 3rd Edition, Guinness Publications, 1987. Whitburn, Joel. Joel Whitburn’s Pop Annual 1955-1994, Billboard Record Research Inc, 1995. Billboard, May 11, 1968, page 50. Billboard, September 7, 1968, page 3. Variety, September 2, 1970, page 60.
Another great resource is: www.newspaperarchive.com/
Some of the scans and photos seen here are on the Standells Facebook page. from the collections of Larry Tamblyn, Thomas Haaland and others.
Van Morrison (harmonica, saxophone, vocals) Alan Henderson (bass) Billy Harrison (lead guitar) Eric Wrixon (keyboards) Ronnie Millings (drums)
1963
The group is formed in Belfast, Northern Ireland by Henderson (b. 26 November 1944, Belfast, N. Ireland), Harrison (b. 14 October 1942, Belfast, N. Ireland) and Millings (or Mellings), who have previously played in a local three-piece outfit, The Gamblers. The trio adds keyboard player Eric Wrixon (b. 29 June 1947, Belfast, N. Ireland) and a short while later completes the original line up with singer Morrison (b. George Ivan, 31 August 1945, Belfast, N. Ireland) from local band The Monarchs. Wrixon names the band after a 1950s B horror film.
1964
April (10) According to an article in Belfast weekly, Cityweek, dated 22 September 1966, Them had played their first ever gig at the Maritime Hotel in College Square North as a trio of Harrison, Henderson and Millings as Van Morrison was playing at the Plaza and had give two weeks’ notice. The trio played in the break for The College Boys.
(17) One of the first R&B/beat group’s in the province, the Morrison fronted Them quickly build a reputation as a strong live act holding down a residency at the Maritime Hotel. The group’s repertoire includes a blistering 15-minute version of Bobby Bland’s “Turn On Your Love Light”, and a 20-minute improvisation of Morrison’s celebration of teenage lust, “Gloria”. (Although Morrison is credited for the song’s lyrics, Harrison and Henderson have contributed significantly on the musical side.)
(24) Them return for a show at the Maritime Hotel in Belfast.
May The band attracts the attention of manager Phil Solomon (currently working with Irish pop trio The Bachelors), who is greatly impressed by the band’s live performances (and Morrison in particular). Solomon encourages Decca’s Dick Rowe to see the band perform at the Maritime, and Rowe in turn arranges a session in London. (According to Cityweek‘s 22 September 1966 issue, the group had already recorded a three-track demo for local producer Peter Lloyd comprising “Stormy Monday”, “I Got My Mojo Working” and “Don’t Start Crying Now”.)
(1) Them play at the Martime Hotel, Belfast.
(8)The group appears at the Maritime Hotel, Belfast.
(15) Another show takes place at the Maritime Hotel, Belfast.
(22) The group returns for a show at the Maritime Hotel, Belfast.
(29) Them appear at the Martime Hotel, Belfast.
June Them relocate to London and a hotel in Portobello Road, where they hang out with their label mates The Poets.
July(5) The group enters Decca’s West Hampstead, London studios to begin recording, but the three-hour session is a stressful affair and Rowe decides to employ session musicians Arthur Greenslade (organ) and Bobby Graham (drums) to “fill out” the sound. Them records Slim Harpo’s “Don’t Come Crying Now” and Van Morrison’s “Gloria”, “One Two Brown Eyes” and “Philosophy”, which are all released over the next year. The band also records covers of “Groovin’”, “Turn On your Love Light” and “You Can’t Judge A Book By Its Cover” which are shelved. After the recordings, Wrixon is forced to leave (in part because his father objects to a disproportionate royalty split between the management and the group and in part because he is still at school and has ‘A’ levels to complete). Pat McAuley (b. 17 March 1944, Coleraine, N.Ireland) takes over the keyboard position.
September(4) The group’s debut single, “Don’t Start Crying Now” backed by “One Two Brown Eyes” is released but fails to chart.
October The group returns to the studio to record an electrifying version of Big Joe Williams’s blues classic “Baby Please Don’t Go”. Session guitarist Jimmy Page adds rhythm guitar to the recording (and does not play lead as some sources suggest).
(15) Them are billed to perform at the Zeeta House, Putney, Surrey. However, there is another west London band with this name who soon become Themselves to avoid confusion with Van Morrison’s band so this may be that group.
November(6) “Baby Please Don’t Go” backed by Morrison’s “Gloria” is released. Millings leaves and Pat McAuley moves onto drums.
December The short-lived (yet well photographed) new line-up appears on the popular TV show Ready Steady Go!
1965
January Pat’s brother Jackie (aka John) (b. 14 December 1946, Coleraine, N. Ireland) is added on keyboards as the group begins work on its next single, a recording of their new producer, Bert Berns’s “Here Comes The Night”. Some sources maintain that organ player Phil Coulter and drummer Alan White are brought in to play the McAuley brothers’ parts, but this is disputed by the band members. (Berns, an American producer working in the UK is impressed with Morrison as a vocalist and will continue to work with the group over the next few months.)
February Aided by TV appearances, “Baby Please Don’t Go” hits UK #10, while “Gloria” quickly becomes an anthem for the emerging US garage band generation. Decca releases an EP featuring both sides of Them’s debut single, the recent hit and Morrison’s “Philosophy” recorded during the July sessions.
(10) Western Scene lists the band playing at Bristol Corn Exchange.
(13)The Kilmarnock Standard lists the band playing at the Community Centre, Auchinleck, Scotland with The Blue Chekkers.
(15) Western Scene lists the band playing at Bath Pavilion.
(18)According to the Worthing Herald, the band appears at the Pier Pavilion in Worthing, West Sussex.
(20)Them appear at the Club Noreik, Tottenham, north London.
(22)The Warrington Guardian lists the group at the YOR Club, Parr Hall, Warrington, Cheshire with The Clayton Squares.
(25)The band performs at Swindon’s Locarno Ballroom with The Knives and Forks.
(26)Them plays at Woolwich Polytechnic in southeast London.
(27)The band appears at Manchester University.
March “Here Comes The Night” hits UK #2 and is the group’s most successful release. The band begins work on its debut album, but sessions are once again plagued with problems. Some sources suggest that the group’s three producers Bert Berns, Dick Rowe and Tommy Scott supplement the band with session players, although this is disputed by band members.
(1)The Dorset Evening Echo lists Them at the Pavilion Ballroom, Weymouth, Dorset with The Soundsmen and The Silhouttes.
(2)The band plays at Wallington Public Hall in Wallington, Surrey.
(3)Them perform at Stourbridge Town Hall in Worcestershire.
(4)The group appears at Kidderminster Town Hall in Worcestershire.
(9) The Yorkshire Evening Post lists the group performing at the Three Coins in Leeds, West Yorkshire.
(13) The Stockport County Express says Them appear at the Manor Lounge in Stockport with The Mersey Squares.
(14) The Birmingham Evening Mail reports that the band plays at the Brum Kavern Club, Small Heath, West Midlands with The King Bees.
(16)The Southern Echo lists the band playing at the Empire Hall, Totton with Gary Young & The Deacons.
(19)The Ruislip & Northwood Gazette lists the group playing at Botwell House, Hayes, Middlesex.
(20)The Grantham Journal has Them playing at Drill Hall, Grantham, Lincolnshire with The Delcounts.
(21)Them perform at the Pigalle in central London.
(22)The group plays at the Adelphi in West Bromwich, West Midlands with the Uglys.
(23)The Woking Herald lists the band at Walton Playhouse.
(24-28)Them takes part in a short tour of Scotland, according to Beat Instrumental.
(25)During the Scottish tour, the band appears at the Two Red Shoes in Elgin.
(29)Music Echo from Liverpool reports that Them appear at Silver Blades in Liverpool.
(30)Them play at the Floral Hall in Gorston-on-Sea, Norfolk.
April (1) The band returns to perform at the Manor Lounge, Stockport, Greater Manchester with The Mersey Squares.
(4)Them appear at the Ritz in Birmingham.
(9)The group plays at Leamington Town Hall in Warwickshire. On the same day, Billy Harrison responded to the band’s critics in an article entitled “‘Them’ Hit Back” in the Belfast publication Cityweek.
(10)Them performs at Dudley Town Hall in the West Midlands.
(11) Them perform at the New Musical Express Poll Winners Concert at the Empire Pool, Wembley, west London with many others. Beat Instrumental also has the band appearing at the Co-Op in Gravesend, Kent earlier during the day. It is not clear whether this happens as the Sussex Evening Express also lists the band appearing at the Whitehall in East Grinstead, West Sussex with The Hounds.
(13)The Southern Echo lists the band at Haymarket Theatre, Basingstoke, Hampshire with John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers, The Evil Eyes and The Trinity.
(14) The Birmingham Evening Mail reports that Them appear at the Mackadown, Kitts Green, West Midlands with The Tombstones.
(17)Beat Instrumental reports the band performing at the Market Hall in Redhill, Surrey.
(18)Beat Instrumental lists Them at the Oasis, Manchester.
(22)The Western Gazette advertises the group appearing at the Liberal Hall, Yeovil, Somerset with The Bo-Peeps.
(23)Beat Instrumental reports that the band is performing another show in Gravesend, Kent but this is unlikely.
(24) Beat Instrumental lists Them playing in Kirkcaldy, Scotland but this is unlikely as the band headed back to Northern Ireland around this time. Unhappy with the band’s direction and his personal treatment, Jackie McAuley leaves after a show at St Columbana’s Parish Church in Ballyhome, Northern Ireland and is replaced by ex-Cheynes member Peter Bardens (b. 19 June 1944, Westminster, London, England; d. 22 January 2002).
May “Gloria” charts for a week at US #93, selling mostly in California where it hits Top 10 in some major cities.
(1) The Walthamstow Guardian reports that Them play at Walthamstow Assembly Hall, Walthamstow, north London.
(7) Belfast publication, Cityweek reports that Them have been recording a lot in the past few days with new organist Peter Bardens.
(9) Them perform at the Winter Gardens in Margate, Kent with Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders, The Nashville Teens and The Fourmost.
(11) The band appears at Bristol Chinese R&B Club, Corn Exchange, Bristol, according to the Western Scene.
(14) The Streatham News reports that Them appear Wimbledon Palais, southwest London.
(17) The Enfield Gazette & Observer reports that Them perform at the Potter’s Bar Ritz in north London with The Zephyrs, Screaming Lord Sutch & The Savages and The Mark Four.
(20)The Worthing Herald lists the band playing at Worthing Assembly Hall.
(25) Them appear at the Assembly Hall, Wallington, near Croydon, south London.
(26) The band performs at Stourbridge Town Hall in Worcestershire.
(28) Them play at Winchester Town Hall in Hampshire.
(29) The band appears at the Rhodes Centre in Bishop’s Stortford in Hertfordshire.
(30) The band plays at Elm Park in Hornchurch, east London.
June(1)Them begin a UK tour at Tunbridge Wells Public Hall. (The tour will end on 21 June at the Beachcombers, Leigh and Bolton). During this period, Pat McAuley is briefly replaced by former drummer Ronnie Millings before rejoining the group.
(2) Western Scene lists the band playing at Bristol Corn Exchange.
(5)The Cornish Guardian notes the band will play at the Par Stadium in St Austell before later appearing at the Riveria Lido in the evening.
(7)The Gloucester Citizen reports the band appearing at the Top Spot, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire with The Saxons.
(11)The Morrison-penned “One More Time” fails to chart. Them’s debut album (The Angry Young) Them is released in the UK to coincide with the single but is another chart failure.
(17)Them perform at the Ritz Club, Skewen, south Wales with The Jay Birds and The Eyes of Blue.
(18) Belfast publication Cityweek reports that Jackie McAuley is back home and is helping to reform The Yaks. McAuley, however, soon moves to Dublin and learns to play guitar. He will rejoin his brother in a rival Them in late December 1965.
(19) Them play at Dudley Town Hall in the West Midlands.
(21) The band appears at the Beachcomber in Leigh.
(24) Them perform at Leeds University.
(25) The group appears at the Starlight Room, Boston Gliderdrome, Boston, Lincolnshire with Rodgers Lodgers.
(26) “Here Comes The Night” hits US #24. On the same day, the Lincolnshire Standard reports that Them play at the Starlight Ballroom, Boston Gliderdrome, Lincolnshire with Mike Sheridan & The Nightriders and Rodgers Lodgers.
July Original Them member, Eric Wrixon completes his studies.
(3)The Lancashire Evening Post reports that Them appear at Public Hall, Preston, Lancashire with Bob Johnson & The Bobcats and The Wildcats.
(9)Harrison responds to rumours that Them are breaking up in an article in Cityweek. In the article, entitled “We are not breaking up”, he insists the group has no intention of splitting.
(15)Them perform at Salisbury City Hall, Salisbury, Wiltshire. Around his time Billy Harrison is sacked and replaced by Scottish guitarist Joe Baldi (b. Joseph Baldi, 16 March 1943, La Spezia Italy), who has played with Bardens in Hamilton King’s Blues Messengers. Harrison will briefly return in mid-October.
(17) Them appear at Clacton Town Hall, Clacton, Essex with The Vaqueros and The Blue-Berries.
(18) The new line-up plays the Whitehall in East Grinstead, West Sussex backed by Johnny Fine & The Ramblers, according to the Sussex Evening Express.
(19) The Belfast Telegraph reports that Pat McAuley was sacked today. He is subsequently replaced by Englishman Terry Noon, who has previously worked with Gene Vincent.
(21)The Littlehampton Gazette lists the band at the Top Hat in Littlehampton, West Sussex, possibly marking Noon’s debut.
(23)Cityweek reports that Them now contains only Van Morrison and Alan Henderson in an article entitled “…And then there were two”. Peter Bardens, however, does remain with the band. The Belfast publication also notes that Pat McAuley resigned from the band rather than was sacked.
(26-27) Them’s new line up appears at the Queen’s Ballroom, Cleveleys, Lancashire with two supporting groups after playing in Scarborough on the 25th July.
(28) The Bolton Evening News says the band performs at the Beachcomber, Bolton, Greater Manchester.
(29) Beat Instrumental reports that Them are appearing at the Pavilion Ballroom on the Isle of Man.
August A second Berns song, “(It Won’t Hurt) Half As Much” is released but doesn’t chart. In the US the single’s b-side “I’m Gonna Dress In Black”, written by producer Tommy Scott under the pseudonym ‘Gillon’, is released instead but is not a success.
(3) Them play at the Mexican Hat, Worthing, West Sussex, according to the Worthing Gazette.
(4) The Camberley News reports that Them play at the Agincourt Ballroom in Camberley, Surrey.
(15) The Western Gazette advertises the group appearing at the Gaumont, Bournemouth, Dorset with The Byrds, Unit 4 Plus 2, Charles Dickens & The Artwoods, Johnny B Great & The Quotations, Sue Holloway and Jerry Stevens .
(23) The Cambridge News reports that Them play at the Dorothy Ballroom in Cambridge.
(28) The Lancashire Evening Post lists the band appearing in the Marquee in the grounds of Clitheroe Castle, Burnley, Lancashire with The Fortune Tellers.
(30) The Cambridge News advertises the group appearing at Bigmore Hall in Cambridge.
(31) The Eastern Evening News reports that Them appear at the Gala Ballroom in Norwich with Pentad.
September (1) Former members Billy Harrison and Pat McAuley (now on keyboards) announce their own version of Them in London on this day, which contains singer Nick Wymer (ex-Pink Faires), drummer Skip Alan (ex-Donovan) and bass player Mark Scott (ex-Adam Faith). The group is initially dubbed “Some of Them”.
(4) The Bolton Evening News reports that Van Morrison’s Them play at Bury Palais De Danse, Bury, Greater Manchester. Soon afterwards, Baldi returns to Scotland. Bardens also departs and forms The Shotgun Express. He later moves into session work, records two solo albums for Transatlantic Records and then forms 1970s progressive/rock outfit, Camel. Terry Noon also leaves but will return briefly in mid-October.
Back in Belfast, Morrison and Henderson have formed a new version of Them with lead guitarist Jim Armstrong (b. 24 July 1944, Belfast, N. Ireland) from The Melotones and keyboard/sax, flute player and vibes player Ray Elliott (b. 23 January 1944, Belfast, N. Ireland; d. June 1993, Toronto) from The Broadways. Apparently, original keyboard player Eric Wrixon fills in briefly but soon leaves to rejoin Portadown band, The People before Elliott joins. The new version of Them is completed with new drummer John Wilson (b. 6 November 1947, Belfast, N. Ireland) from The Misfits. The band rehearses at the Martime for two weeks before making its live debut in Lisburn on 24 September (see below). Belfast’s publication Cityweek had reported in its 23 September issue that Morrison rehearsed with Wilson’s band The Misfits as a potential new version of Them for three days before the new line up was agreed.
(24)Morrison’s new version of Them make their debut at the Top Hat club, Lisburn, Northern Ireland where they perform a 40-minute set. Shortly after a show at the Flamingo in Ballymena, Morrison’s band returns to London and resumes work on its second album. The group’s debut album is released in the US as Them and hits #54.
(30) Cityweek‘s 30 September issue features an article on the new formation entitled “The return of Them”.
October(11) Morrison’s Them play at the Thorngate, Gosport, Hants.
(15)Van Morrison’s Them play at Zeeta House, Putney, southwest London.
(16) Them are billed to play at Big Daddy’s in Halifax, West Yorkshire with The Blues Set. Around this time, Jim Armstrong is forced to pull out of the band at short notice. Billy Harrison is drafted in to play some UK dates before joining the group for French and (in December) Scandinavian dates (see later).
(19) Them (with Billy Harrison) appear at the Olympia in Paris, France with Bo Diddley. The gig is reported in Cityweek‘s 21 October issue. John Wilson, who is considered to be too young to travel, is replaced by former member Terry Noon. The group then travels to Scandinavia for more live dates (although this may be later in the year). Back in England later this month, Noon makes way for a returning John Wilson and joins The Yum Yum Band before moving into rock management, working initially with Honeybus.
(21) Belfast publication, Cityweek reports that John Wilson’s former band, reduced to a trio since he left, is moving to London.
(22)Streatham News reports that Them play at the Wimbledon Palais in southwest London. However, it is not clear whether this is the rival Them or Morrison’s group after returning from Paris.
(31) The Eastern Evening News reports that Them appear at the Royal Hotel in Lowestoft, Suffolk with The Easi-beats.
November Early in the month, Skip Alan leaves the Harrison/McAuley Them to replace Viv Prince in The Pretty Things, who soon takes up Skip Alan’s place for a few weeks. Harrison, who has briefly returned to the rival Them after Jim Armstrong resumes his place, departs when Skip Alan lands the job with The Pretty Things. Harrison does session work for producer Joe Meek.
(4)Pat McAuley’s rival Them registers the Them name. By now the group contains a new guitarist, known as Don, who has replaced Billy Harrison.
(25) The Western Gazette advertises the band (but not clear which version) appearing at Liberal Hall, Yeovil, Somerset with The Fortunes and Screaming Lord Sutch & The Savages.
December(2) When Viv Prince leaves Pat McAuley’s rival Them, his place is taken by Ken McLeod.
(4) “Mystic Eyes” fares better in the States where it reaches #33. On the same day, Boyfriend magazine notes that Them appear at Leeds College.
(9) Cityweek reports that Billy Harrison has joined The Pretty Things and is currently touring with that band in Holland. He also plays with The Pretty Things on a Scandinavian tour in early December. At the turn of the year, he also covers for Jim Armstrong in Them for their first Scandinavian shows. Harrison quits the music business in mid-1966 after playing with The Pretty Things in the Isle of Wight during March and joins the GPO. Original Them keyboard player Eric Wrixon meanwhile had joined The Kings showband in late November before re-joining The People, according to Cityweek.
(10) The Gloucester Citizen reports that Them appear at Lydney Town Hall, Lydney, Gloucestershire, which might be a gig by the rival version of Them.
(17) The Southend Standard lists Them appearing at the Cricketers Inn, Westcliff, Southend, Essex with The Orioles.
(19) Wymer leaves the rival Them after a gig in Stoke-on-Trent (this is Mr Smith’s in Hanley with The Beatroots). Soon afterwards, he is replaced by Pat’s brother Jackie McAuley on keyboards/vocals, who has been living in Dublin. Pat moves on to drums and Ken McLeod takes over guitar from Don who leaves in mid-January. On the same day, Van Morrison’s Them play at the nearby Majestic Ballroom in Shropshire. Around this time, the group plays in Liverpool and after the show Armstrong collapses with a suspected perforated appendix. He spends Christmas in the emergency ward at Liverpool’s Southern Hospital, according to Cityweek‘s 6 January 1966 issue.
(23) Cityweek notes that John Wilson left Them last weekend but no replacement has been announced. The article entitled “Them rush-release second album for States” also profiles the forthcoming Them Again LP. Wilson rejoins The Misfits (until April 1967) and then works with Belfast groups, Derek & The Sounds and Cheese. In the late 1960s, he joins guitarist Rory Gallagher in Taste before forming Stud in the early 1970s.
(29) Cityweek‘s 6 January 1966 issue reports that Alan Henderson and Ray Elliott have flown to Stockholm to join the other Them members (Van Morrison and Billy Harrison) for two shows at the weekend of 31-December-2 January. The group is still without a permanent replacement for John Wilson. However, David Harvey (b. David Tufrey 29 July 1943, Bude, Cornwall, England) takes his place on the drums in January after the group use a succession of temporary fill ins.
(31) Boyfriend magazine reports that Them play at the Fender Club in Kenton, northwest London but it’s not clear which version this is. However, it is most likely the Pat McAuley version considering Morrison’s version play in Stockholm this weekend.
1966
January Them’s second album Them Again fails to chart in the UK. It contains two of Morrison’s best songs: “Hey Girl” and “My Lonely Sad Eyes”, as well as an edited version of Bobby Bland’s “Turn On Your Love Light”. Original Them member Eric Wrixon leaves The People, who have relocated to Blackpool, and joins another expatriate Belfast band, The Wheels in February, who record two singles for Columbia.
(1) Jackie McAuley makes his debut with the rival Them in Peckham, southeast London. On the same day, Cityweek reports that Them make their first trip to Scandinavia this weekend, even though Armstrong hasn’t fully recovered from his hernia operation in late December. Billy Harrison takes Armstrong’s place.
(3) Van Morrison’s Them appear at the Shoreline club in Bognor Regis, West Sussex with new drummer David Harvey.
(4) Morrison’s Them play at the Assembly Hall, Aylesbury, Bucks.
(6)Cityweek reports that Them will return to Paris’ Olympia next week and are also resident in the Club Locomotive for three days.
(10) Them appear at the Labour Hall, Bletchley, Bucks.
(11) Morrison’s latest line up play at the Hut, Westcott, Surrey.
(22) The Coulsdon & Purley Advertiser reports that Them play at the Club Nevada, West Croydon, south London.
(27) Them appear at the Whitehall, East Grinstead, West Sussex. On the same day, Cityweek reports on the legal row over who is Them. Van Morrison’s version are currently on tour in Wales.
(30) The North Herts Herald reports that Them perform at Newbury Plaza Ballroom in Berkshire with The Just Men.
February(4) The McAuley brothers’ Them record three tracks at a demo session: a cover of Graham Bond’s “I Want You”, a cover of Bob Dylan’s “It’s All Over Now Baby Blue” and Jackie McAuley’s “Movin’ Free”.
(11) The Luton News reports that Them appear at Parkside Ampthill, Bedfordshire with The Sneakers but it is not clear which version this is.
(15)The Coulsdon & Purley Advertiser reports that Van Morrison’s Them appear at Club Nevada, West Croydon, south London.
(16)Melody Maker lists the band playing at the Last Chance on Oxford Street, central London.
(18)The rival Them perform at the KB Hall, Copenhagen, Denmark with The Pretty Things.
(19)Van Morrison’s version appears at Floral Hall, Southport, Lancashire with The Cryin Shames.
(21) According to Melody Maker, The Van Morrison version of Them play at the Club Continental in Eastbourne.
(22)Chris Groom’s book Rockin’ and around Croydon lists Van Morrison’s Them at the Gun Tavern in Croydon, south London.
March Morrison’s version of Them’s cover of producer Tommy Scott’s “Call My Name” fails to chart.
(5) The Malvern Gazette reports that Them perform at the Malvern Winter Gardens in Worcestershire with Lighting Blues but it is not clear which version this is.
(7) The McAuley brothers’ Them appear at the Club Continental, Eastbourne.
(9) The rival Them lose their court case and change name to “Some of Them”.
(11) Van Morrison’s version play at Tiles on Oxford Street, central London with Steve Darbyshire and The Yum Yum Band.
(28) Van’s version returns to Tiles for another show with The Quiet Five in support.
April Morrison’s Them’s final session produces a cover of Paul Simon’s “Richard Cory” and Morrison’s “Mighty Like A Rose”. “Gloria” is re-issued and climbs to US #71.
(2) The Nelson Leader reports that Them (possibly with Dave Harvey on drums) appear at the Imperial, Nelson, Lancashire with Cliff Bennett & The Rebel Rousers and Sounds Incorporated.
(9) Van Morrison’s version of Them appear at Torquay Town Hall in Devon with The Hunters and The Javelins, according to the Herald Express.
(16) The Shadows Of Knight’s version of “Gloria” hits US #10. On the same day, the Grantham Journal has Them playing at Drill Hall, Grantham, Lincolnshire with The Beathovens and The Nemkons.
May Paul Simon’s “Richard Cory” is the group’s last official single but is not a success. Morrison is particularly annoyed by its release, preferring his own song “Mighty Like A Rose” as a prospective single. In the US, Tommy Scott’s “I Can Only Give You Everything” is released as a final single and is quickly adopted by US garage bands like The MC5 as a punk anthem. Them Again reaches US #138.
(2)The Coulsdon & Purley Advertiser reports that Them perform at the Star Hotel in Croydon, south London.
(7) The Luton News reports that Them appear at Harpenden Public Hall, Harpenden, Herts with The Fuzz Bugs but it is not clear which version this is.
(14) Them perform at Decca Entertainment Centre, Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester.
(21) The Malvern Gazette reports that Them perform at the Malvern Winter Gardens in Worcestershire with Group 66 but it is not clear which version this is. In late May, PACE magazine reports that Van Morrison’s version play at Crayford Town Hall in southeast London. Soon afterwards, Morrison’s version flies out to New York to begin its debut US tour, with the first show in Arizona.
(27) Some of Them record two tracks with Kim Fowley – “Gloria’s Dream” and “Secret Police”. On the same day, Van Morrison’s Them appear at the Rollarena, San Leandro, California.
(30) Some of Them perform in Blackpool, Lancashire. On the same day, Van Morrison’s Them begins a residency at the Whisky-A-Go Go, West Hollywood, California.
May(31) – June (17)Morrison’s Them performs at the Whisky-A-Go-Go, West Hollywood, California, where they are sometimes supported by The Doors.
June (3) The rival version of Them performs at the Cricketers Inn, Westcliff, Southend, Essex with the Orioles, according to the Southend Standard.
(13 & 15)Some of Them record further tracks in London.
(18) On the last night at the Whisky, The Doors’ vocalist Jim Morrison joins Van Morrison’s group on stage for a 20-minute improvisation of “Gloria”.
(19)The band discovers that the club has been willing to pay the group $10,000 per week. However, due to their management deal with Phil Solomon (whereby they have agreed to play for $2,000 a week minus a 35% management fee and a guarantee), Them have received considerably less than they think they should. This causes a lot of bitterness between the group and Solomon, and as a result Them inform promoter Bill Graham that they will only play at their forthcoming Fillmore concert if they are paid in advance.
(21) Some of Them (billed as Them) appear at Balliol College, Oxford University alongside The Kinks, The Fortunes, The Alan Price Set, Geno Washington & The Ram Jam Band, The Caribbean All-Steer Band and Bunny Thompson.
(23) Morrison’s Them appear at San Francisco’s Fillmore Auditorium with The New Tweedy Brothers. After their performance, Morrison meets his future wife Janet Planet who accompanies the band on the rest of the tour. (She will be the inspiration for Morrison’s Astral Weeks.)
(26) Morrison’s group is supported by The Association at the Oakland Auditorium, Oakland, California.
(27-29)Some of Them move to Denmark where they perform as Them. The group performs three shows in Copenhagen and finish their final recordings. Over the next five months, the band gigs in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. In the last week of July, the band is briefly joined by former Them member Peter Bardens on keyboards, allowing Jackie McAuley to come up front as lead singer.
July(1-2) Morrison’s Them perform at the “Beat On The Beach”, Santa Monica, California with The New Generation.
(8-9)Them appear at the Waikiki Shell, Kapiolani Park, Honolulu, Hawaii.
(23) The band performs at the Strand Theater, Modesto, California.
(28) Morrison’s group is supported by The Doors and The Count Five at the Starlight Ballroom, Oxnard and (in the evening) the Earl Warren Showgrounds, Santa Barbara, California.
(29-30) Morrison’s Them is supported by The Sons Of Champlin at the Fillmore Auditorium, San Francisco.
August (9) The McAuley brothers’ Them play at the Complain-LA-Tour jazz festival in Belgium.
(19-21) Morrison’s group performs at the Losers North, San Jose, California.
(23-28) A further set of dates take place at the Losers North.
September (1) Belfast publication Cityweek reports that The Wheels are back in the city. The band will split soon after, however. In 1967, Eric Wrixon will move to West Germany with The Never Never Band and plays regularly at Hamburg’s Star club, supporting soul acts like Sam & Dave.
(2-3) Them performs at the Longshoreman’s Hall, San Francisco.
(8) Cityweek reports that Van Morrison, Alan Henderson and Jim Armstrong arrived home from America last week so it’s not clear whether the September US dates took place despite being advertised.
(9) They are billed to appear in Fresno, California. However, Morrison and Henderson may have already returned to London to sort out business matters with Solomon. Morrison continues to work on some new songs that will later comprise his masterpiece Astral Weeks.
(17) The McAuley brothers’ group, now dubbed The Belfast Gypsies score a minor US hit when “Gloria’s Dream” hits #124.
(22) Morrison and Henderson are profiled in Cityweek‘s 22 September issue in an article entitled ‘Van and Co. back to “square one”‘.
(29) Cityweek reports that Ray Elliott flew in to Belfast last week.
October(2) The Weston Mercury reports that Them appear at the Winter Gardens, Weston-Super-Mare, Somerset. This would have been the McAuley brothers’ version. In Belfast, Morrison soon returns to occasional live work in a new outfit dubbed, Van Morrison and “Them Again”, which features former Castaways and Unit guitarist Eric Bell alongside former Alleykatz members Joe Hanratty (drums) and Mike Brown (bass). Alan Henderson doubles up on second bass.
(13) Cityweek reports that Jim Armstrong has left Them to play with The Federals. Ray Elliott will also briefly join this outfit, according to the paper, a short while later.
(28) The Belfast Telegraph reports that Van Morrison and Them play (their debut show) at the Square One Discotheque in Belfast with The Blue Angels.
November(4) Cityweek‘s 3 November issue reports that Them appear at Carrickfergus Town Hall today with The Carpetbaggers and The Fugitives.
(5) The McAuley brothers’ Them play their final date in Stockholm.
(10) The Belfast Telegraph reports that Van Morrison & Them perform at Sammy Houston’s Jazz Club. When Eric Bell leaves immediately after the Queen’s University rag ball gig, the band implodes. Van Morrison concentrates on a solo career. Bell meanwhile moves to Glasgow and plays with The Bluebeats for two years.
December Armstrong, Elliott, Harvey and Henderson decide to carry on with Them’s name, now that Morrison has abandoned the name and is pursuing a solo career. The group recruits a new vocalist Ken McDowell (b. 21 December 1944, Belfast, N. Ireland), previously a member of Belfast group The Mad Lads, who have recorded a number of singles for Decca Records, as well as a lone release “I Went Out With My Baby” as Moses K. & The Prophets. The new version of Them writes to Carol Deck, Californian editor of Flip magazine (who had given the band some encouraging reviews during its US tour) asking for help, and she in turn introduces them to Texan producer Ray Ruff, who has his own indie label, Ruff Records. The new version of Them moves out to Amarillo, Texas in June 1967.
1967
January Major Minor Records releases “Gloria”, backed by another Morrison song, the acoustic “Friday’s Child” as a UK single. The McAuley brothers’ Them implodes and Jackie McAuley returns to Dublin and forms Cult with singer/songwriter and guitarist Paul Brady.
March A second Major Minor single “The Story Of Them” is released. Morrison signs a solo contract with Bert Berns and travels to New York to record for his Bang label. This will result in an immediate US hit “Brown Eyed Girl”, which makes #10. After Berns’ death in December 1967, Morrison will sign with Warner Brothers and record the classic Astral Weeks, which proves to be the beginning of an illustrious career.
(4) The Belfast Telegraph reports that Van Morrison is one of the opening acts for The Stormsville Shakers at Queen’s University’s student union in Belfast together with The Interns.
June (30) The US-based Them appear at the Purple Onion Teen Club, Wichita Falls, Texas.
July (12) According to the Childress Index, Them appears at Fair Park Auditorium, Childress, Texas. The next day they also play a gig in Farmington, New Mexico. The newspaper says they will tour for five months and play 20 times in Texas.
August Nearly year after the band’s final performance, the McAuley brothers’ group The Belfast Gypsies have a belated album release on the Swedish label Sonet as Them Belfast Gypsies. Having relocated to Amarillo, Texas, Henderson’s Them release their debut single without Morrison, a cover of Tom Lane’s “Dirty Old Man (At The Age Of Sixteen)” / “Square Room” on Sully Records before a nation-wide distribution deal is struck with Tower Records.
(10) The Evening Sentinel reports that Eric Wrixon’s latest group, The Never Never Band appear at the Golden Torch in Tunstall, Staffordshire.
September Starting off in Amarillo, Henderson’s group kicks off a major tour. The gruelling 61-date tour takes the musicians across the US Midwest and then to Los Angeles, where Them begin work on its first album without Morrison. Santa Rosa, California-based newspaper, the Press Democrat notes in its 1 January 1968 issue that the LP is recorded in studios in Texas, Oklahoma and Hollywood, California.
November Henderson’s Them release a second 45, the band composition “Walking In The Queens Garden” b/w “I Happen to Love You” on Ruff Records.
December Tower issues two singles, one includes newly recorded versions of “Dirty Old Man (At The Age Of Sixteen)” and “Square Room” and the second reissues the Ruff 45.
(8-10) The band appears at the Whisky-A-Go-Go, West Hollywood, California with Love and Blue Cheer. Santa Rosa paper the Press Democrat, says they play at the Vets Building in Santa Rosa, California over the Christmas weekend.
1968
January A new album, Now And Them is released featuring Them’s reply to the Doors’ “The End”, the extended raga piece “Square Room”.
February Tower reissues the Ruff 45 of “Walking In The Queens Gardens” but its success is limited to the West Coast.
March (24) The Hamilton Spectator’s 22 March issue, page 30, notes Them are playing in Toronto and will appear at Carl’s in Hamilton, Ontario on this date with David Clayton-Thomas and Combine. The group’s incessant touring prompts Elliott to quit the band while Them are in New York. He returns to Belfast briefly before working with an Irish showband in Leeds alongside guitarist Eric Bell from “Them Again”. Bell soon returns to Belfast to replace guitarist Gary Moore in The Shades of Blue before working with the Dublin-based The Dream showband.
April “But It’s Alright”, an out-take from the album is released as a single but doesn’t sell.
(11) According to the Odessa American newspaper, Them plays at Ector County Coliseum, Odessa, Texas.
May(24-25) Henderson’s Them appear alongside The Incredible String Band at the Kaleidoscope, Hollywood, California.
July The title track from their forthcoming album Time Out For Time In is released but is not a success.
August(14-15) The band plays with Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention at the Electric Theatre, Chicago. Them also performs at the Baton Rouge Festival on a bill that features Freddie King.
November Them’s second album Time Out Time In For Them is released. It has been recorded at Los Angeles’ Gold Star studios in the wake of Elliott’s departure and features session drummer John Guerin on a number of tracks. A single “Waltz Of The Flies” is extracted but fails to chart.
1969
March Them’s final single, a cover of the traditional Corinna is released but fails to chart. Unhappy with Ruff’s management and production, Armstrong and McDowell leave and return to Belfast where they put together Sk’Boo with Ricky McCutcheon and Colm Connolly. Henderson, meanwhile, remains with Ruff in L.A. and continues with the Them name; using guitarist Jim Parker and drummer John Stark from Amarillo band, The Kitchen Cinq, he produces two further albums: Them (1969) and In Reality (1970) for the Chicago label Happy Tiger. David Harvey also stays behind in California but will leave the music business.
June After working briskly throughout Ireland and the British mainland, Armstrong and McDowell shelve Sk’Boo (after a farewell gig in Wolverhampton) and return to the US later that year. Based in Chicago, the duo recruit an American rhythm section comprising bassist Curt Bachman (ex-The Buckinghams) and drummer Reno Smith formerly of Baby Huey and The Babysitters in a new group called Truth, which becomes house band at Beavers. The Chicago Tribune‘s 2 November 1969 issue runs a spread on the newly formed group. The band tours extensively around the Chicago area for the next 18 months, and also contributes several songs to the soundtrack for Pat Mulcahy’s film Cum Laude Fraud (later released as College For Fun And Profit), before being offered a recording deal with Epic Records. Ex-Them member Ray Elliott rejoins the band during its lifespan but subsequently leaves after contributing to some recordings and returns to England.
July(26) Them and Truth* both appear at the Eugene Pop Festival, Hayward Field, University of Oregon, Eugene alongside Alice Cooper, The Doors and others.
* Neal Skok and I have been trying to find out for some time now what “Them” this was — there is a slim chance it was the Tower Records ensemble. But the “Truth” that is listed for this gig is most definitely not the Chicago-based Truth comprised of the ex-Them gents (whose CD Neal and I put out on his “Epilogue” label in ’94). This “Truth” was a NW teen rock band – and of course there were several Christian bands that used that name in the ’60s and later. – John Berg
October Having returned from Germany and joined The Trixons showband, original Them member Eric Wrixon joins guitarist Eric Bell from the short-lived “Them Again” in the original Thin Lizzy. He leaves in early 1970 and returns to Germany to play with Junior Walker, Junior Wells and Buddy Guy among others.
1970
January (21) Truth play at the New Cellar, Chicago alongside The Mauds.
March Having moved to Beirut in Lebanon with The League of Gentlemen the previous year, former Them member Jackie McAuley returns to England and forms Trader Horne with Judy Dyble, who has previously worked with the original Fairport Convention. The duo release the album, Morning Way, which features contributions from former Them member Ray Elliott. When Trader Horne split later in the year, McAuley forms the short-lived One with Rosko Gee and Adam Marsh before starting on a solo album.
1971
February Truth return to Belfast for a working holiday before sessions in London begin later that month. Unfortunately, Epic Records undergoes a change in management and following a communication problem, Truth’s band members fall apart before they have a chance to enter the studio. Elliott subsequently moves to Canada (where he dies in June 1993 in Toronto), while Bachman and Smith return to the US. Armstrong and McDowell move back to Belfast where Armstrong joins the Civil Service and McDowell becomes a member of The College Boys. (Truth’s private recordings and studio sessions from Chicago are later released by Epilogue Records as The Truth Of Them And Other Tales in 1995.)
March Jackie McAuley releases his eponymous debut solo album on the small Dawn label, before later working with bands Wand and Mackeral Sky. He also spends four years working with Lonnie Donegan. Jackie’s brother Pat (who turns down an offer to play with Marc Bolan), sadly dies in a drowning accident in Donegal on 11 August 1984.
1972
August Compilation album Them Featuring Van Morrison hits US #154.
1973
After working with cabaret singer Roly Stewart, Jim Armstrong has rejoined Ken McDowell in The College Boys in the early 1970s. The pair then join Reunion before working with another former Them member John Wilson in Bronco. The pair also form the band Spike, which works at the Pound club in Belfast. Wilson subsequently becomes Northern Ireland’s top session drummer.
1974 Backtrackin’ released only in the U.S., featured obscure b-sides and songs not previously available in the U.S.: “Richard Cory”, “I Put a Spell on You”, “Just a Little Bit”, “I Gave My Love a Diamond”, “Half as Much”, “Baby Please Don’t Go”, “Hey Girl”, “Don’t Start Crying Now”, “All for Myself” and “Mighty Like a Rose”. All the tracks except the last, however, were in simulated stereo.
1978
Armstrong leaves Spike and forms his own band Light, who record an eponymous album on the small Mint label in Ireland only.
1979
Billy Harrison reforms Them with original keyboard player Eric Wrixon. Initially, Harrison intended to complete the group with John Wilson, who’d played drums on Them Again album, together with bass player Jackie Flavelle and singer Mel Austin but Wilson and Flavelle drop out prompting him to bring in drummer Billy Bell. He also brings back Henderson, who has spent several years working on his Connecticut farm. Them move to Germany where they hold down a residency in Hamburg. While there the group records the album Shut Your Mouth for Teldec/Decca before Jim Armstrong and Brian Scott from Light replace Harrison and Wrixon. However, after a brief tour of Germany the group splinters. Armstrong reunites with Ken McDowell in a new version of Sk’Boo, who release one single “It’s A Hard Road” for the small Cuecomber label.
1980
Harrison emerges with the solo album Billy Who? on the German Vagabond label. He then abandons a music career and become a marine electrician. Jackie McAuley spends most of the 1980s and 1990s working with Poor Mouth, who release a number of albums, including Gael Force. In 1982, he co-writes “Dear John”, which is a hit for Status Quo.
1989
Original member Eric Wrixon forms The Belfast Blues Band with another former Them member, John Wilson.
1994
Jackie McAuley emerges with a new solo album, Headspin. Guitarist Jim Armstrong meanwhile has formed The Belfast Blues Band with original Them member Eric Wrixon. His former band mate, Ken McDowell has continued to work with Sk’Boo and then plays with Hens Teeth before forming The Kenny McDowell/Ronnie Greer Band in the early 2000s.
1998
Jackie McAuley releases another solo release, Shadowboxing.
2000
Jackie McAuley puts out another solo release, Bad Day At Black Rock. McAuley subsequently joins The Harbour Band, who release the album Live In The Spirit Tour in 2003.
2003
The Ken McDowell/Ronnie Greer Band release the album, Live At The Island. Jim Armstrong leaves The Belfast Blues Band and reforms The Jim Armstrong Band.
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I don’t own any of Noel Odom and the Group’s three 45s – not for lack of trying, but they’re in high demand since “Come on Down to Earth” became a staple of 60’s music nights around the world.
You might assume an artist on Tower and its subsidiary Uptown would be based in California, but the Group was actually from Louisiana. Their songs were licensed by Tower, but without any push from the label or band presence on the L.A. scene, the 45s undeservedly dropped out of sight. Noel recently took the time to answer some of my questions of his time in music:
I played in “The Group” 1964-1969 – later “Noel Odom and the Group.” Bob Fell and I started the band, and as a unit also Fred Engelke- drums and Sonny Williams- bass. Later added Ron DiIulio on keys- great player – still is!!
We played live in Shreveport and Bossier at high school dances at Airline High and Bossier High. Several teen clubs like Southland Park and the Teenclub at Barksdale AFB. Also at that time “the Strip” in Bossier city was famous with numerous clubs along Highway 80 East. The most famous being “Saks Whisky-a-Go-Go” with the “Boom Boom Room.” Also “The Shindig” where we played all through a full quarter of college. All four of us went to Louisiana Tech together. We usually played somewhere every weekend.
We backed Dickie Lee at a show in Shreveport and he took us to Memphis to record in 1968. We recorded five songs in Memphis at Sam Phillips Recording studio with Stan Kessler as engineer: 1: “Pardon My Complete Objection,” 2: “I Can’t See Nobody,” 3: “Midnight Hour,” 4: instrumental that Ron DiIulio wrote, “Love Too” I think, and finally as an afterthought “Come on Down to Earth.” Picked up and signed by Tower Records, division of Capitol. Naturally the company came back and liked Come on Down, so horns were added and it was released – never went anywhere.
The record was on American Bandstand’s “Rate a Record” and we beat the other song “Leavin on a Jet Plane” and I believe it was John Denver’s version before Peter, Paul & Mary recorded it and made #1. Dickie Lee was our producer and Allen Reynolds was our A&R man.
Our other sessions were done in Sun Recording studios, which was just redone. The J. Reid was John Reid and he wrote a concept album about “Flower Children” and it included a lot of narrative. “Hey Yesterday Where’s My Mind” and “Come on Rain” came from that work. It was a cool idea and we had some forward thinking effects like feedback guitar on one track. It was never released in full, but there was some good work on that album.
Thanks for asking the questions- it really taxes my memory, but those were good days in my memory.
I am still playing in the Shreveport area in “The Convertibles” together for 21 years, playing old r&r.
Drummer Fred Engelke filled in some details on the band:
During high school Ron DiIulio and I formed a band called “The Class Cutters” and we competed with Noel and Bob’s group “The Group”. Ron went to college at North Texas State University and I went a year at Texas A & M. After my freshman year, I came back to Louisiana to go to school and joined up with Noel and Bob. We then recruited Sonny Williams for bass and formed the new version of “The Group”. Later, after Ron came back from NTSU, we got him in the band and created the final version of “The Group”.
The producers said there was already a band called “The Group” so we renamed ourselves “Noel Odom and the Group” because of Noel’s unusual first name. When we released the last record they decided that the name “Noel” would distinctive and we used it.
As Noel said, “Come on Down to Earth” was really a throwaway song to be used as a “B” side to one for the other recordings. It turned out well and we recorded “Love Too” as sort of a “C” side. It was made up on the spot by Ron DiIulio. Ron (not pictured in the photo you have) was a member if the group during all sessions.
By the way, when you hear Noel say ‘Come in Ron!’ he was referring to the solo that Ron did on organ. However, they decided later to use a guitar solo by Bob instead. Also, there were no drumsticks in the studio and I forgot to bring any and there were no music stores nearby that were open, so I played the entire session using the stick part of timpani mallets.
The last record, “Hey Yesterday Where’s My Mind,” under the group name “Noel” was released shortly before Noel enlisted in the Navy. He did this because he didn’t want to stay in college and, because it was during the height of the Vietnam War, he knew he would get drafted. He figured if he enlisted he could choose what he would do and he figured the Navy would be less likely to send him to Nam.
Was Ron the same person who played with the Chessmen in Dallas?
Yep, that’s the same person. He was not originally from Dallas but he formed the Chessmen while attending North Texas State University. We stole him from the Chessmen to be in the group. He’s back in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, playing with his current group “Crawfish”. He would love to bring Noel with his voice into the group he now has. Noel’s voice has matured and Ron has assembled a super group of musicians. The last time I saw Noel sing with Ron’s band, I was totally blown away! I haven’t seen either for two or three years now.
On a side note, Susan Christie recorded a nine-minute version titled “Yesterday, Where’s My Mind” after meeting Blackwood Music songwriter John Reid in Memphis. Hear it on B-Music’s CD – Susan Christie – Paint a Lady.
The Group continued after Noel’s departure, eventually becoming the second of two versions of the Bad Habits who recorded for the Paula label.
Thank you to Noel Odom for his comments and the photo of the Group, and to Fred Engelke for his comments and 45 scans.
Noel Odom & the Group 45 releases:
Noel Odom & the Group – Come on Down to Earth / Love Too (Tower 441, 1968) The Noel Odom Group – I Can’t See Nobody / Pardon My Complete Objection (Uptown 763, 1969) Noel – Hey Yesterday Where’s My Mind / Come on Rain (Tower 505, 1969)
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