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The Cannons “Day to Day” on Night Owl

from left: Peter Loeb, Jim Perkins, Mike Turk and Mike Keilhofer, with Lee Larsen kneeling in front.The Cannons came from Madison, Wisconsin, releasing singles in 1966 and 1967. Members were:

Lee Larsen – lead vocals
Mike Keilhofer – lead guitar
Peter Loeb – sax and rhythm guitar
Jim Perkins – bass
Mike Turk – drums

Gary E. Myers’ book Do You Hear That Beat has Jerry Cratzenberg on bass.

Their first single was “Sweet Georgia Brown” / “Lonesome” on Fan Jr. 5504, produced by Skip Nelson.

Cannons Night Owl 45 Day To DayIn January 1967 they made their masterpiece, “Day to Day”, backed with “‘Love,’ Little Girl”.

No writing credits are listed for either song on the Night Owl 45, or for “Lonesome” on the earlier Fan, Jr 45, but a Capital Times profile stated “‘Day to Day'” and “‘Love Girl'” … both songs were written by ‘The Cannons.'”

“Day to Day” was reissued on Highs in the Mid Sixties Vol. 15 retitled “Days Go By”, and wrongly listing the band’s origin as Milwaukee.

The Capital Times ran a profile of the group by Gary Rettgen on February 6, 1967:

‘The Cannons,’ Local Rock ‘n’ Roll Group, Discovered by Chicago Agency

A musical group of young Madison men has been “discovered” by Chicago’s Williard Alexander booking agency … but the “discoveries” already are well known to Madison rock ‘n’ roll fans.

The local Upstairs at the Gun Club, Cottage Grove Rd., bills them as “Madison’s Number One Band.” Recently the group were first place winners in the March of Dime benefit band contest at the Capitol Theatre.

Familiar, too, is the face of its long-haired, bearded leader, Peter Loeb, 21, who wields a “wicked” sax and wild second guitar … Peter will enter graduate school in social work after June graduation.

Mike Keilhofer, 20, on lead guitar is a student at the Wisconsin School of Electronics.

The bass player is 20-year-old Jim Perkins, who by day attends Madison Business College.

Mike Turk, 20, the drummer, is a U. of Wisconsin sophomore.

Singing with “The Cannons” is Lee Larsen, 19, a printer’s apprentice by day at Webcrafts. The only married man in the group, he has a daughter…

A young brother, Greg Loeb, 18, a U. of Wisconsin freshman, has formed a group of his own. Their name: “The Grapes of Wrath.”

The Tikis “We’re on the Move” on Sara and the Talismen on Rampro

The Tikis and the Talismen had bassist and song writer Bill Schereck in common. Both bands formed at the University of Wisconsin in Madison, first the Tikis in the spring of 1965, then the Talismen in the fall of 1966.

The Tikis included Hugh Pearl on lead guitar, Bill Schereck on bass, Dale Dechstein (or is it Dale Chiusano?) on rhythm guitar and Bob Brethorst on drums.

They cut their great “We’re on the Move” / “Rick-O-Shay” at Cuca in Sauk City in April, 1966, released on Sara J-6641.

Bill Schereck wrote “We’re on the Move” (misspelled Scherek on the label), and Hugh Pearl wrote the deft instrumental “Rick-O-Shay”. The Tikis toured in the summer of ’66 then broke up. Supposedly there’s an unreleased recording engineered by the Legends Sam McCue.

The Talismen (formerly the Tikis) at the Westside Business Man’s Association, Friday September 23, 1966

Talismen Rampro 45 Glitter and GoldBill Schereck formed the Talismen with Paul Beneke on guitar, John Javorsky on bass and Russ Loniello on drums.
They released their only record, “Glitter and Gold” / “She Belongs to Me” on Rampro Records R-115 in October 1966.

I believe this may be the first release on Ken Adamany’s Rampro label out of Janesville (and is possibly an extension of the numbering on his Feature Records). Dick Campbell produced the session and also played guitar. Russ joined group only a few days before making the record.

Schereck went on to booking, managing Axis (with members Ann Probert, Steve Paris, Gary Huebing, Don Davis and John Beth), writing the B-side of their single on Earth “I Can’t Wait”. Schereck would make a record as the Roadcrew on Mercury 73631 in 1975.

Sources: Gary E. Myers’ invaluable books Do You Hear That Beat and On That Wisconsin Beat.

Karen Verros “You Just Gotta Know My Mind” on Dot Records

Karen’s Somerset High School yearbook photo, 1964

Karen Verros made three singles for Dot Records in 1965 and 1966, her best known being “You Just Gotta Know My Mind” and “Little Boy”. She came from Somerset, Massachusetts, near Rhode Island, graduating with honors from Somerset High School in 1964.

The year after graduation she was in Los Angeles, recording for Dot Records with Jack Nitzsche arranging, and David Hassinger and Mike Minor producing. How she came to the attention of Dot Records I do not know.

For her first record, Nitzsche arranged a Donovan composition, “You Just Gotta Know My Mind”. The prominent bass and solid drumming, the tambourine, vocal chorus and twangy guitar lines, provide an exciting backing for Karen’s lead vocal.

Donovan sheet music for "You Just Gotta Know My Mind"
Donovan didn’t release his own recording of the song. It appears he made a demo version that publisher Southern Music distributed on lacquer acetate, as that was a common way for publishers to sell songs. An Emidisc acetate cut for Southern Music sold in 2010, with Donovan’s song on one side, and an obscure Carter-Lewis song “How Can I Turn Away” on the other. Audio of “How Can I Turn Away” has surfaced, but the Donovan demo has not. I would very much like to hear it!

It’s possible one of Karen’s producers found the song because Southern Music Publishing in New York issued it as sheet music in 1965, with a piano arrangement by George N. Terry. Nitzsche’s arrangement closely follows the sheet music.

Steampacket II cut a version of “You Just Gotta Know My Mind” in 1966 on a Sweden-only 45 release, and in 1968 Dana Gillespie recorded another good version of the song for a UK single and her first album Foolish Seasons. However, Karen’s version is the first and definitive recording.

Karen Verros Dot 45 You Just Gotta Know My MindReleased in October 1965 on Dot 45-16815, the labels read 1:57 on the A-side, but play a version fifteen seconds longer that repeats the first verse after the guitar solo. The B-side is the vocal-less backing track of “You Just Gotta Know My Mind” with an overdubbed lead guitar, titled “Karen’s Theme”.

There are both vinyl and styrene versions of the single. I’ve read that the first pressing of the 45 features an edited 1:57 version of “You Just Gotta Know My Mind”. However, I’ve had two vinyl copies and one styrene, and all three played the 2:12 version of the A-side despite the 1:57 time listed, and had “Re” on labels & in the dead wax.

Ace used a Sunset Sound Recorders acetate (or possibly an edited tape) for the 2006 CD release Hard Workin’ Man – The Jack Nitzsche Story, Volume 2. I believe this is the source for the 1:57 version. If someone has a Dot 45 that actually plays a 1:57 version of the A-side, please contact me!

Unfortunately this single does not seem to have had any push from Dot Records, as I cannot find any promotion or reviews in the trades.

Karen’s earliest television appearance may have been on Let’s Go Go in November, 1965, with Tommy Roe, the Plymouth Rockers and John Astin (Gomez Addams from the Addams Family, who had a 1965 single on United Artists, “Querida Mia” / “Wallflower Pete”). I’m not familiar with this TV show. The episode was announced in the Journal of Jersey City, NJ.

Karen’s next 45 came in December, 1965, “I Can’t Remember Ever Loving You” backed with a remake of the Crystals “Little Boy”, also arranged by Nitzsche and produced by Hassinger and Minor.

McKeever & the Colonel, Hollywood a Go Go, Outer Limits rerun, or Nabokov interview?

This one received a good push from her management, as Karen appeared on what seems to have been the final episode of Hollywood a Go Go in February 1966, lip-synching to both sides of the record. Other performers were Freddy Cannon, the Byrds, the Bantems, the Everly Brothers, Bob Lind, David Watson and James Darren.

Cash Box reviewed the single positively on January 29, 1966, while Billboard mentioned “I Can’t Remember Ever Loving You” but not “Little Boy”. The next week Dot listed the single in an ad in Cash Box and Billboard featuring Bonnie Guitar and many other new releases.

On January 30, 1966, Karen appeared on the Danny Thomas Teen-agers’ Shindig at the Riverside Municipal Auditorium on a long lineup that included the Spats, the Sunrays, Barry Richards, the Paris Sisters, Dick and Dee Dee, Donna Loren, the Grads, and the Beauchemins, along with some who are unknown to me: Bobby Perris, Tony Dow, Paul Peterson, Tony Thomas, and the Germs (!).

She appeared on Where The Action Is at least twice, in April 1966 with Otis Redding, Steve Alaimo and Paul Revere & the Raiders, and in May, 1966 with Susan Rafey, Tina Mason and Cindy Malone.

Her third and last record on Dot was “Wish Me A Rainbow” / “So Warm My Love”, arranged by Pete King, and released in the summer of 1966. The A-side was the theme from the Natalie Wood & Robert Redford movie This Property Is Condemned, however the film & soundtrack versions were sung by actress Mary Badham.

Karen Verros at right in the Young Americans, August 1966. Also in photo: Lisa Binney, Steve Wilson, choreographer Diane Turnquist, Mary Arnold, and Ernie Becerril.

Around the time of her last Dot release, Karen joined the Young Americans song-and-dance group. The Ottawa Journal ran two profiles of the group: first on August 25, 1966, and another on September 3 that quoted Karen and described her as “a newcomer to the Young Americans.” The group appeared at the Central Canada Exhibition grandstand show.

The Young Americans originally formed in 1963 at Birmingham High School in Los Angeles. According to the Journal, M.A. Turnquist was business manager and Phil Azelton music director.

The Boston Globe ran a short item about the Young Americans on November 18, 1966:

The Young Americans, who were such a smash hit on the Andy Williams Show and the Allen Sherman special the past fortnight, will help Perry Como pry open his new season next Monday. One of its members, Karen Verros, will be watching from the home of her parents in Somerset.

On September 28, 1968, Cash Box reported:

Newest indie production firm on the coast is Raydan Prod., with Ray Katz and Danielle Mauroy partnered. Initial deal with MGM Records calls for four artists – two already released (Judd and Lisa’s “Some Other Place” and Mayf Nutter’s “Daddy Love You Boy”) with Karen Verros set to cut this week. Katz also manages a fistful of talents including Fran Jeffries and Eva Gabor. Mauroy was formerly with Barclay Records in France. Raydan is located at 9000 Sunset in L.A.

If Karen recorded for Raydan or MGM, there were no releases to my knowledge. Danielle Mauroy had produced the Lollipop Shoppe’s Just Colour album on Uni earlier that year.

On January 8, 1971 the Concord Transcript ran this notice:

Leather and Lace has top billing in the Topaz Room of Nevada Lodge … Leather and Lace has four men and one woman. All members are good enough to be considered lead singers. But Karen Verros – who is the lace of the group – is a stand-out as they perform a fast, exciting act.

An evening of Leather and Lace almost always includes the full assortment of entertainment hor d’eourves [sic]: rock ‘n’ roll, folk songs, pop numbers, spiritual songs, show tunes, comedy material and flashy dance routines.

Two members of Leather and Lace were formerly on the Doodletown Pipers television series, another was a member of the Kids of the Kingdom at Disneyland, and two were performing with a well-known rock group.

Leather and Lace record for Mercury records. The male contingents are Craig Ward, Chet Cook, Larry Walker, and J.C. Ferris.

I can’t find any recordings on Mercury Records for Leather and Lace, and I wonder what was the “well-known rock group” that the clipping mentions. The Reno Gazette also reported on Leather and Lace on June 11, 1971. That is the last notice I can find of Karen’s musical career.

Karen Verros was one of ten child performers including Chris Barnes (Turner Doyle in The Bad News Bears) who had money in savings bonds held by the Los Angeles Family Court, according to an article in the Los Angeles Times on April 26, 1998.

Karen Verros at left with members of the Young Americans, 1966.

The Loved Ones “Surprise, Surprise (For You)” on Ambassador Records

The Loved Ones profiled in the Knoxville News-Sentinel, January 22, 1967
The Loved Ones formed at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville. Members were:

Terry Johnson – guitar
Barry “Byrd” Burton – guitar
Doug Graham – bass
Mike Coyner – drums

Alan Copeland – drums (replaced Mike Coyner in fall of 1966)
Ranse Whitworth – guitar (replaced Terry Johnson in late 1967)
Dorian Rush – drums (replaced Alan Copeland in February, 1968)

Loved Ones Ambassador 45 Surprise, Surprise (For You)In June of 1966 released a great 45 of two original songs, “Surprise, Surprise (For You)” (written by Terry Johnson and Barry Burton, Tuba Music) b/w “Another Time or Place” (by Terry Johnson, Kasen Music) on Ambassador Records TIF 212. The Loved Ones recorded the songs at Bradley’s Barn studio in Nashville.

The band’s manager went to New York to shop the single, and secured a deal Ambassador, a label from Newark, New Jersey.

An early version of the group, under perhaps a different name, had started a year or two earlier, playing a VFW hall in August 1964. Terry Johnson played guitar; Doug Graham was playing a Fender Rhodes Piano Bass. Other early members included Bill McMakin on acoustic guitar, and an unknown drummer, perhaps Jim Bible or Ed Hagood. At some point they were replaced by Barry Burton and Mike Coyner.

The Loved Ones made a demo in January 1966, “I Love Her More”, cut at Startime Studios, owned by Jim Clayton, in January 1966. WKGN broadcast the song in February, but it has since become lost.

On August 28, 1966, the News-Sentinel reported on their summer residency in Greenwich Village, a time I would like to know more about:

The Loved Ones’ Returning to Knox

A local long-haired singing group, which has been playing in New York’s Greenwich Village all summer, will return to Knoxville Saturday at the Civic Coliseum.

“The Loved Ones,” all U-T students when they organized last January, will sing before about 5000 at the Knoxville invitation Teen Board Dance.

The group, Terry Johnson, Barry Burton, Doug Graham and Mike Coyner, will be based in Knoxville this fall when Terry returns to school at U-T…

Three – Terry, Doug, and Barry – are from Rogersville, and Mike from Chattanooga.

I looked for notices of the Loved Ones playing in Greenwich Village, but so far have not found them.

After this article appeared, Alan Copeland, originally from Memphis, replaced Mike Coyner on drums.

The Loved Ones and their manager Bill Baillie helped open a Knoxville nightclub called The Place.

The Knoxville News-Sentinel reported on January 22, 1967:

The Place, 1915 Cumberland Ave., which opened Friday night … has an unique atmosphere all its own. The L-shaped room, large enough for 450 people, features black walls and white flourescent designs. Several large revolving rainbow-colored lights set the walls and floors to dancing. About 75 small tables dot the two ends of the room. Benches with narrow tables jutting out from them line the walls, creating seats for about 270 …

The Loved Ones are providing the opening week entertainment. Other combos scheduled include the Group from Memphis, the Playboys from Chattanooga, and Knoxville’s Jay, Jami, and the Soul Survivors.

Their recent recording, “Surprise, Surprise” was a regional hit … the group will release a new record in early spring.

On July 2, 1967, the News-Sentinel ran an item “Two Knox Groups Cut Pop Discs”:

Jay Henderson, a Rule Hugh School graduate, and Sandy Richards, a Central High graduate, have a record out on Spot Label of Johnson City, which began air play last week. They call themselves “Jami and Jay” and are backed by a Knoxville combo, “The Soul Survivors.” The number one side of the record is “I’m So Lonely” and the flip side is “I Know I’m Not Much.”
Another Knoxville group, “The Loved Ones,” has recorded 12 original songs for Roulette Records, a national company in New York. Terry Johnson, leader of the group which met at U-T, wrote the songs, two of which are planned for release within two weeks. Others in the group are Doug Graham, Barry Burton, and Alan Copeland.

I’m not sure if the band actually did cut “12 original songs for Roulette Records”, or what happened to those recordings.

On Friday, September 1, 1967, the Loved Ones opened for the Young Rascals at the Knoxville Civic Coliseum.

Ranse Whitworth replaced Terry Johnson in late ’67, and Dorian Rush replaced Alan Copeland in February 1968.

The band released their second 45 on Brookmont Records 556, “Country Club Life” (by B. Russell, B. Cason), “Together, Together” (W. Rabideau, D.J. Chalmers), produced by Redell Productions. CashBox reviewed it on September 14, 1968: “social commentary about the country club-commuter set is delivered in blues style … FM play could alert Top 40’s to its sales potential.”

[Walter Rabideau and David-John Chalmers wrote both sides of the only other release on Brookmont Records, by Tomorrow’s Children “Take a Good Look” / “Rainy Corner”, and both would go into the Farm Band in Summertown, Tennessee.]

I don’t know how or when the group broke up.

In 1972 Byrd Burton formed the Amazing Rhythm Aces (with Jeff Davis of Indiana group the Nomads, whose “Coolsville” on Skoop is covered on this site).

The Loved Ones had at least one reunion, with Byrd Burton, Terry Johnson, Ranse Whitworth and Mike Coyner.

Several of the members have passed away: Dorian Rush at the age of 20, Doug Graham in 2004, and Barry “Byrd” Burton in March of 2008.

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Steve Hostak

One 1967 photo shows the Loved Ones in Nashville’s Bradley’s Barn studio with Steve Hostak. Hostak wrote “Summer Boys” which Judy Eggers cut at Metro Recording in Knoxville, released with “Life of a Fool” (by E.J. Roberts) on Metromaster M-166.

In the 1970s, Stephan Hostak played guitar on albums by James Talley, Tracy Nelson and others, and did some writing and arranging work. I’d like to know more about Hostak’s connection with the Loved Ones, and his other early studio work.

The Coronados of Waterford, Michigan on Dot and Lamar Records

The Coronoados, left to right: Bob Stayton on guitar, Bill Goddard on drums, Jerry Schemmel on saxophone, and Rick Stockwell on bass.

This tale of forgotten Detroit rockers begins in the Stockwell family basement in the early 1960s as Rick Stockwell formed the Coronados and his brother Joe formed the Nomads. Learning about rock ‘n’ roll through his older half-brothers was Michael Marsac. His first group, Old Friends, was an all-acoustic group with Dave Anderson, Ken Crawford and Johnny Heaton, later of the West End.

Managed by Cecil, the father of the band’s Jerry Schemmel, the Coronados appeared on WKHM disc jockey Robin Seymour’s CKLW-TV Channel 9’s television show, Swingin’ Time. Featuring Rick Stockwell on electric bass, the Coronados were rounded out with Bob Stayton on guitar, Bill Goddard on drums, Jerry Schemmel on saxophone, and Gene Gustafson on keyboards.

Coronadoes Lama 45 Zig Zag The Coronados soon had the support of a country music song-smith known for writing songs for Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, George Jones, and Jerry Lee Lewis. Mick Vickery produced and arranged four sides for the band across two singles. The first, “The Nomad” b/w “Center of Attraction,” was issued in 1965 on Paramount Pictures Productions’ musical division, Dot Records. Issued that same year—and with the “e” added—the Coronadoes recorded Vickery’s “Zig Zag” backed with an original, “What Would I Do,” for Dino Productions on Nashville’s Lamar Records.

Coronadoes Lama 45 What Would I Do

The Vickery deal was the culmination of the band winning the Michigan State Fair’s annual “Battle of the Bands” talent show, along with winning the Starlit Stairway’s Talent Show hosted by Rita Bell (the station’s meteorologist) on WXYZ-TV Channel 7 in 1963, in addition to a well-received opening slot for a Walled Lake, Michigan, appearance by Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons. As the Vietnam War arrived, the Coronados splintered as result of Rick Stockwell and Jerry Schemmel’s service. Schemmell wouldn’t return home.

Above: Ron Course’s photo montage video featuring all four sides: Dot 45 first, followed by the Lamar single.

Once back in the states, Rick Stockwell, along with his brother Joe, joined fellow Vietnam veterans-friends Larry Merryman and Gary Markley in the Detroit-based jam-band collective, Stonefront: a band known for overseeing the Gar Wood Mansion commune located at 450 Keelson Drive, Detroit, on Greyhaven Island located on the Lower Eastside of the Detroit River. During the years of 1969 to 1972, with an ever-changing roster (featuring ex-Coronados’ guitarist Bob Stayton, along with drummer Jeep Capone and guitarist Rod Shivers of Seeds of Doubt), Stonefront hosted rent parties attended by—with the bands sometimes performing a second, free show after their gigs at the Cobo Arena, Eastown Theatre, and The Grande Ballroom—Cream, Joe Cocker, Iron Butterfly, the Rolling Stones, and Leon Russell.

The Gar Wood Gang, courtesy of Adrian Wright.
Stonefront practice at Gar Wood, courtesy of Colleen Donovan.
Newsprint photo of Stonefront at home in the Gar Wood: Left to right: Larry Merryman, Joe Ford, Jeep Capone, Bob Stayton, and Rick Stockwell. Courtesy of Jeep Capone.
Stonefront inside Detroit’s Terra Sherma Studios: Left to Right: Jeep Capone, Bob Stayton, Rick Stockwell, Rod Shives, and Larry Merryman. Courtesy of Jeep Capone.
After the Corondoes and before Stonefront: Leadville Feed, Seed & Bag Company, 1968-ish: Left to Right: Rick Stockwell, guitar, organ and lead vocals; Mark Lungdren bass and vocals; Bob Stayton, guitar; Dick Ayers, drums.
Coloradus: Right to Left: Joe Stockwell, Elde Stewqrt, Ron Course, Rick Stockwell, and Mike Marsac.

By 1971 the Stockwell brothers—along with their then 16-year-old half brother, Michael Marsac—formed the country-rock driven Coloradus. By the mid-‘70s Coloradus consolidated their regional, Great Lakes-area success to the point of opening shows for Detroit-touring national acts, such as the like-minded .38 Special. Coloradus Saloon 45 What Was I to DoGuided by producer Calvin Simon, formerly of Parliament/Funkadelic, Coloradus cut an album at Chess Records in Chicago. As is the case with new bands hoping to generate a hit single, Coloradus recorded two cover tunes by the Allman Brothers to complement their southern-rock styled originals. Unfortunately, the planned release stagnated for a variety of reason lost to the times, but mainly due to Rick Stockwell suffering an “accident-sustaining injury.” The band eventually rebounded with a 45-rpm single issued on the band’s vanity-press Saloon Records in 1979, fronted by Rick Stockwell’s “What Was I Do To” and Michael Marsac’s “Good Lovin’” on the B-side.

The Excels of Pontiac, Michigan, the first band (and drum set: a Slingerland Buddy Rich White Marine Pearl purchased from Pontiac Music) of Ron Course, center. From left to right: John Gains of Texas on bass, Nick Nickerson of Maine on guitar, and Leo “Rio” Carter of California on guitar.

In between the career development of the Coronados and Coloradus, the Stockwell brothers—as well as other Coloradus members, such as long-time Stockwell associate, drummer Ronald Course—strolled through the turnstiles of Detroit’s iconic Danny Zella. Zella—with the ampersand moniker The Zell Rocks—graced Detroit stages since the late 1950s with national and regional hit singles, such as “Black Sax,” “Wicked Ruby,” “Steel Guitar Rag,” a cover of Leiber and Stoller’s “Kansas City,” and “Sapphire.” Later opting for the Zeltones suffix by the early ‘70s, Zella became a fixture on Michigan and Great Lakes-area stages as he provided a “rock ‘n’ roll boot camp” for those musicians who invaded the Gar Wood during its progressive rock years. It was through Danny Zella, and his band’s eventual transition into Kottage, then his retirement from the stage, in which Coloradus, birthed.

Prior to the mid-70s arrival of the Stockwells’ Coloradus, the brotherly duo performed alongside Johnny Heaton in White Heat. That band’s rotating roster featured ex-Zeltones and Coloradus drummer Ronald Course, Dale Kath of the Ascots, as well as Dave Anderson and Ken Crawford of Mike Marsac’s Old Friends.

While the Stockwell brothers are no longer with us, Michael Marsac continues to record and perform in the Big Rapids area of western Michigan as part of the musical concern, Michigan Soul Tribe. Dale Kath and Ronald Course currently record on the Detroit scene as the Blue Room Band.

Article by R.D Francis.

All band photos (banner and You Tube video) provided by Mike Marsac via Ron Course. Coronadoes Lamar 45 scans by Chris Bishop, Coloradus scan courtesy of Discogs.

Other stills of the Corondoes, dated between 1963 to 1965, were provided by Richard Bernard via Christine Evans.

Nightflier, in the early ’80s: Ron Course, left, Joe Stockwell, center.

Ron Course appears on the lost, early-1976/1977 home studio demos of Ted “The Phantom” Pearson’s next concern, Pendragon. The below audio montage features Ron with the following Detroit bands:

Bliss — Country Girl (featuring Ron Course on lead vocals)
Coloradus — Love Shock
Nightflier — We’re an American Band
Shotgun Willie Band — Lonely Tears

 

The Limey’s with the London Sounds “Come Back” on Sherwood

The Limeys profiled in the Miami News March 15, 1966The Limeys were Andrea Gennard and Stephen Gennard, a sister and brother duo who arrived in Miami, Florida from London about 1962. While students at Rockway Junior High, they made this great single “Come Back” / “Green and Blue” with the London Sounds.

Limey's with the London Sounds, Sherwood 45 Come Back

Released on Sherwood 1715, a Miami News notice gave the exact release date, Monday, April 25, 1966. Printed sleeves included a small photo of the duo.

An February 25, 1966 ad for the Palmetto Bandstand featured the Limey’s backed by the Outcasts, on a bill with the Dirt Merchants. (The following night featured the Invaders, the Impacts and the Hares.)

The Miami News profiled the band on March 15, 1966, including:

Here are two down-to-earth teens with an out-of-this-world singing talent. They have no set style, but their music lends itself mostly to folk-rock …

Limeys Miami News May 27, 1966Stephen and Andrea, together with their parents, Mr. and Mrs. Eddie Gennard, of 1715 SW 97th Pl., arrived from London almost four years ago …

Usually they are coupled with a five-member band, the Outcasts.

With the Outcasts, the Limeys have appeared on Florida Bandstand, the Miami-Dade Junior College campus, on Chuck Zinc’s TV program and at the Cloverleaf Center.

The entire Gennard family has become involved: Dad is business manager, Mom a critic and booster.

They also appeared on the Rick Shaw show on May 27.

Limey's with the London Sounds, Sherwood 45 Green and BlueOn the single, the backing band is called the London Sounds, and includes horn players and strings. I’m not sure if the Outcasts were involved, or even who was in the Outcasts – if anyone knows please contact me.

Stephen and Andrea wrote “Come Back”, and co-wrote “Green and Blue” with Pat Tallis, publishing by Chalfont Music Publishing.

Copyright registration from February 1966 shows three other songs: “Take It Easy”, “I Love You”, and “Melonie”, the last two co-written with Pat Tallis.

In June both the Miami News and the Herald mentioned the duo signing to Scepter Records, I wonder if anything came of that.

They must have been unaware of the English group the Limeys, releasing singles on Amcan in the U.S. and Decca and Pye in the UK.

Andrea Gennard Miami News March 8, 1966

Back in England, Record Mirror profiled the duo on May 11, 1968, providing different last names, Andrea Gerome and Steve Gerome.

The article mentions they did work in America “but, as ever, work permits for artistes so young (Anna is 17, Steve 16) proved difficult. Anna used to be apprenticed to hairdresser Vidal Sassoon, abandoning haircutting for disc-cutting.”

Anna and Steve made two singles for Fontana under the artist name Too Much, “Wonderland of Love” / “Mr. Money” (written by Gerome) in 1967, then “It’s a Hip Hip Hippy World” / “Stay in My World” in February 1968.

As Anna Hamilton with Stephen they made another single on Fontana in April 1968, “Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven (But Nobody Wants To Die)” / “You Laughed When I Cried” (b-side writing credited to Gerome). Their version competed with the Karlins, (triplets Linda Wilson, Elaine Wilson and Evelyn Wilson) who released their 45 on Columbia (UK) about the same time.

Thank you to Ansgar for pointing me to the Record Mirror article (which I never would have found considering they had changed their name!).

Andrea and Steve Gerome in Record Mirror, May 11, 1968

Thee Society “That Girl” / “Determined Mind” on Revolvo

Thee Society Revolvo 45 Determined MindI don’t know if Thee Society were a working band or a studio group. They released only one single, “That Girl” / “Determined Mind” on Revolvo RV-45-217, probably in 1968 or 1969, out of Hollywood, CA.

The A-side is pop, the flip a stomping dance number. E. Nagatoshi wrote both sides, published by Earthquake Music, like other later Revolvo releases.

Not much to go on, but I found a copyright registration to Edward Nagatoshi for a song “We’ll Live On” from February 1966. I’m not sure if this was recorded or if Ed Nagatoshi had any other involvement in music.

Revolvo released a good psychedelic 45 by the Glass Managerie [sic] “End of the Line” / “Troubled Mind” that I’d like to know more about. Dennis Hardy wrote both songs.

Grayson Izumi of Beaudry Express, who commented below, added in a message to me that Thee Society had three vocalists including John Hubbard, and David Akiyama on keyboards. He also recommends the book Chronicles of a Sansei Rocker by Harry Manaka.

Look for Faces not for Signs

George Daly, guitarist and songwriter for the Hangmen tells the story behind “Faces” with previously unpublished photographs.

Allen Ginsberg speaking with Tom Guernsey, George Daly and Bob Berberich

The band had fans and it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to say the Hangmen, at their zenith had a fan intensity that might have rivaled, in our home town, the early Beatles in Liverpool.

There on the Eastern Seaboard, mainly focused on DC and Maryland and Virginia, we played for the high and mighty such as Robert Kennedy and family, at Hickory Hill, multiple Foreign embassy balls, at many of the private girls schools, and wealthy DC homes, and even the fabled NOW Festival in the Adams Morgan area of DC, where Beat writer and great American poet Allen Ginsberg and I ended up talking music until 2am. The Hangmen played at a record store jammed with fans in Virginia where The Washington Post noted it and Cashbox, the music business trade magazines, wrote of the show as the performance turned into a riot involving over 2500 fans.

The Hangmen moved people.

At one point they told us we young men had by now a 1000+ person fan club. I eventually got in trouble with my landlord (and close to being evicted from my little Spring Street one-bedroom apartment) because of the continual lip sticking of the door and walls outside my place with “I Love George,” (heart) the Hangmen,” “We love You Dave,” and so forth – this went on for over a year till I moved to my anonymous next place.

So, we had fans. Passionate ones.

On stage: Bob Berberich on drums, Paul Dowell, George Daly and Tom Guernsey on guitars, and Dave Ottley at the mic

Faces, the song, first came to me one night, basically, all at once right after a gig in front of some of those screaming fans. Here’s how:

Hangmen - It's What's Happening profileWith the gigs’ typical cheers, noise, music and intensity I had noticed a Maryland University junior in the audience, and she me. We talked briefly outside for a few minutes after the show shut down and then she followed my car home. An unexpected feeling came over me as I unlocked the door to my apartment, my new fan just two steps behind. We walked through the door with yet more lipstick graffiti on it, and I was embarrassed. But my new friend seemed almost giddy seeing what was scrawled on the door. As I turned on the lights, I thought, I don’t know my fans, and they don’t even care about that. No, wait! Plus they don’t know me, either. I suddenly got it all. Their excitement isn’t about George or Bob or Tom or Dave or Paul, it’s about the Hangmen. The image of the Hangmen, bad boys, rockers, musicians. And that dazed, glazed look on our fans’ faces that I was seeing around me at the gigs, was all misleading me. My song Faces arrived that night because I needed to express that feeling to the world.

And, yeah, Faces sounds cynical, world-weary, whatever, but it’s real, and there isn’t an artist alive who doesn’t stand on a stage with fans yelling for them, who doesn’t finally realize the world loves the symbol they’ve become, the world loves the outline, and doesn’t know, can’t really know the person making that music or playing that guitar or singing that song just from seeing them on stage. It can be disillusioning. “At 12 you’re young, at 1 you’re old.”

Back at my apartment, I turned to her and said “What’s your last name? You have to start somewhere.

Early photo, from left: Mike Walters, George Daly, Bob Berberich on drums, Tom Guernsey (obscured) and Dave Ottley at the mic. Photo by Michael Klavans

I’m an optimistic person by nature, but that realization stuck. I saw those Faces again, all through three great bands where I was joined at the hip with Bob Berberich in the Hangmen, then the Dolphin with Paul Dowell and sometimes, Roy Buchanan and then Grin, with the incredible Nils Lofgren. And, even later, in the towers, recording studios, label offices, clubs and restaurants of the Hollywood major record label scene where I worked for 25 years after my time in those great born-in-DC bands. (Bob surpassed even our three great bands’ hat trick by singing and drumming, along with the great vocalist Joe Triplett, in Bob’s long-lasting DC band, The Rosslyn Mountain Boys.)

The Hangmen play Mosrite Guitars and Amps Exclusively clippingAnd after these bands, out West I was no longer an artist (mostly), but had an outsized impact on artists with my time running A&R Divisions at Columbia Records, Elektra/Asylum Records and Atlantic Records. One of my artists at Columbia was the late, great Janis Joplin. One afternoon at the Topanga Canyon Corral bar (Southern Comfort on ice for her, me a bourbon sour) we had a long talk about the fickleness and unreality of fans’ perception of artists, Faces again. And about the isolation that comes from living only those shallow exchanges, without the souls talking. She lived that loneliness for a long time. But that afternoon we both laughed about it. Janis was a gem.

But back to that night in my little Silver Spring apartment, the idea of the solitary artist, surrounded only by sycophants, robotic faces, no matter how nice and cheerful and desirous they might be, wouldn’t go away. And when I was alone again in my room with my old Silvertone acoustic guitar my Dad bought me years earlier, alone with my trusty yellow pad, the song, words and music appeared out of nothing but that feeling.

Paul Dowell on bass, Dave Ottley in foreground, and George Daly. Photo by Michael Klavans

The next morning (other people’s mid-afternoon), I polished the song some more by picking up my ‘51 Fender Esquire guitar and plugging it into my amp. I fiddled around and found a grinding riff that was inspired by Mississippian John Lee Hookers, intensely repetitive and growling grooves. He was the famed bluesman whose LP I wore out back when I was learning to play the blues on the guitar, the blues being the God Father of all Rock ‘n Roll. So, I kept working on that guitar lick until the room was ringing and the words flowed effortlessly over the entire song. That’s the Faces you hear today, especially on the Monument 45 version with Dave Ottley’s intense and vivid vocals. It’s not a complicated song, but a deep one, and Dave really liked that and sung it that way, another important part of the magic in that music. It all came together with Faces, my band mates took that song, and once the drumming started, made it come alive. That’s why they call the people working together on music, a Band!

But back to when I wrote it, I saw Bob Berberich the next day, and played him Faces in all its surreal sneer and grim cynicism. Bob has been somebody close to me, starting within weeks of when I brazenly walked up to his front door of his parent’s house, knocked hard, and asked if somebody there played drums (Thanks Griff!). From there I introduced Bob to Tom and the Hangmen were born. Bob was there from the beginning, and he’s still here, which is stupendous luck for me.

The thing about Bob was that he was kind of quiet and hard to tell what he was thinking, but when he engaged with you, he always went to the heart of the matter. That’s something hard to find in anybody, much less a band mate, so we became tight.

So, he and I came to understand each other. And, that day he liked the song, and pushed me to play it for everybody.

Bob Berberich

Amazingly, Bob found a handwritten draft of the Faces lyrics, probably something left on the band practice room floor. But back then, with those words and music, and with him liking it, I knew I had a truthful and powerful message. It was easy after that. Knowing that somebody besides me, my Hangmen bandmate, our drummer, got the message, and also lived the message himself, it all made me feel good. I wasn’t alone in seeing the difference between A Face and a friend. The difference between hollow acclaim and (in Bob’s case particularly) friendship that lasts a lifetime and isn’t star struck.

When his drumming was finally added to the mix combining with Tom’s always brilliant guitar playing, I was amazed how great it all felt. I still am.

A follow up note: A few years later I still had those anonymous stars & fans Faces thoughts on my mind. That was when I wrote a song with Boz Scaggs, Slow Dancer, that Columbia named Boz’s fifth major album after. My Faces anonymous-fan-meeting-you-after-the-gig line: “I never see your face in sunlight, moon light (night time) brings you straight to me. You never even got my name right. You were so easy to me.” That line in Slow Dancer spelled out the same thing as Faces expressed, so nothing really had changed.

But, ironically, with all the Faces who seemed so distant to me, just because of Bob, one fan at a gig finally did make a breakthrough, and it was straight to my heart.

Dale Kalberg modeling photo
Dale Kalberg

The Hangmen played a big show at the Annapolis Armory. Between songs Bob yelled out my name and he pointed out a pretty girl near the front of the jammed and raving crowd. I was laughing with him, and he just used his drumstick to show me where to look, there’s even a picture of me looking at him off frame, grinning. I saw her blond hair and shining face, a feminine outline, so California. I leaned over to Bob after the song ended and said, pretty on edge, wow man, I’m going to marry that girl. I was 21.

Was I joking, I didn’t know. She and I talked after the set. And, she was… so normal, clear-eyed and very present and very real. And, I did marry her. That was the first time I saw Dale from San Francisco, who became Dale Daly. And, the best man at the $23 wedding in Las Vegas? Robert Berberich. You can’t make up the great lives Bob and I have lived. But that’s another tale, too. And involves the next two bands we were in, the Dolphin, then Grin with Nils Lofgren, Bob and me.

(My best man and I also spent a half a day in Jail in Virginia a few years earlier, our crime? Having long hair in 1964 and, after a gig, being on the road on a Sunday morning in deep southern Virginia. Bob’s Dad bailed us out!)

Those fans? Apart from the impossibility of getting close to them instantly, these were wonderful people who loved something they saw on a stage, and for whom I’m forever grateful. Most have disappeared into the dark fog of years. But there still are a few fans that turned out to be real, more than faces, ones that I still know and cherish today, probably more than they ever cherished the image of a Hangmen who had other thoughts in his mind. Someone like me, who couldn’t explain his feelings, except by writing a song.

© G. Daly 2023

George and Dale on the left. Paul Dowell in the middle.

Those Two Plus – Alex Rotter and Dawn Mickle “I’ll Be There”

Schenectady Gazette, September 17, 1968

Those Two Plus Kennett 45 I'll Be There

Those Two Plus – “I’ll Be There” / “It’s Rainin’ (Where I’m Bound)” (both by Alex Rotter, arranged by “Those Two”) Kennett Sound 0017, 1969.

Alex Rotter and Dawn Mickle performed as simply “Those Two” in a couple news reports. The Oneonta Star noted on August 10, 1968 that the duo took second place in the Folk Music Contest at the Otsego County Fair.

The Schenectady Gazette ran a photo of the duo on September 17, 1968:

Those Two, folksingers Dawn Mickle of Warnerville and Alex Rotter of Schenectady, who won top honors at the Cobleskill Fair and first in the semi-finals of the State Fair, entertained patients at the Eden Park Nursing home …

I have a 12″ acetate from the Kennett Sound Studio that includes both songs from the single. Another 12″ acetate contains five songs performed by Alex and Dawn which were not released.

From listening, I believe four of these to be original songs: “If I Were Free”, “Take Me to the Land of Lovin'”, “I Can Tell”, and “I Know What You Mean to Say” (titles are based on the lyrics), along with a version of Fred Neil’s “The Other Side of this Life”:

The Kennett Studio labels are blank.

Thank you to Peter Aaron for loan of the Those Two Plus single, and for finding the Gazette article on the duo.

Update: I’m pleased to say I was able to send the 12″ acetate of five unreleased songs to Alex Rotter’s family. Thank you to Sherry Rotter for contacting me.

The Panics “No More” / “I Pretend” on Shoestring

Panics Shoestring 45 No MoreThe Panics started in 1963, formed at Huguenot High School in Richmond, Virginia.

The lineup was

Jimmy Sherwood – lead vocals and rhythm guitar
Bill LaRue – lead guitar and vocals
Bill Lyell – bass
John Herbig – drums

Dwyane Givens was their equipment manager.

Panics Shoestring 45 I PretendTheir only single contains two original songs by Bill Lyell and Bill Larue, the mid-tempo “I Pretend” shows some Beatles influence, and the fast-paced “No More” opens with a Lennonesque “Oh!”

It was released on Shoestring Records SHO 107 in 1965, a styrene record from the Columbia Records plant at Terre Haute, Indiana.

Clyde Atkinson of the Wild Ones and Mickey Russell of the Fugitives also went to Huguenot High. The Fugitives had a single on Shoestring.

After the Panics, Bill LaRue would form a three-piece blues band, Blue Alfred. He would have one more record that I know of as Snelson & LaRue “I’m Tired of Getting Put Down” / “Making Your Mind Up it’s Over” with David Snelson and Cynthia LaRue, recorded at Audio Communications in Richmond.

Anyone have a good photo of the group?

A couple of very small photos of the group are in the booklet to Aliens Psychos & Wild Things vol. 2.